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grahamhgreen

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18. 5. The Bush Tax Cuts and Big War are the Main Drivers of the Deficit. This protects War
Tue Jan 1, 2013, 01:53 PM
Jan 2013

from cuts and extends tax cuts permanently.

Not the best idea if your goal is to reduce the deficit.

Exactly. A shitty deal for America. No doubt about it. This is not a victory for our side. bowens43 Jan 2013 #1
This is not a victory for our side. AlbertCat Jan 2013 #14
If there had been a period for public comments, this wouldn't have passed. limpyhobbler Jan 2013 #2
That's a good point. senseandsensibility Jan 2013 #3
This, clearly by DESIGN. Then, in the "debt ceiling fight", SS - and everything we hold dear - will chimpymustgo Jan 2013 #6
"How does that keep happening?" -- Dems and Rape-publi-scum are both coalition_unwilling Jan 2013 #25
Yeah, but those 20% are already too poor to matter and many of them won't live Egalitarian Thug Jan 2013 #60
Thank you. A lot of people don't want to admit this, but it is very true. Puregonzo1188 Jan 2013 #101
Exactly.. sendero Jan 2013 #114
So right. Many of us were irate Jack Sprat Jan 2013 #50
We DON'T Hold All the Cards AndyTiedye Jan 2013 #126
"How does that keep happening," indeed. woo me with science Jan 2013 #131
In the middle of the night, at the last minute while everybody was out partying. R. Daneel Olivaw Jan 2013 #12
How fucking crazy is it that our best hope to make things better lies with the hope Egalitarian Thug Jan 2013 #57
This is our reality. I'm stunned that more here refuse to SEE it. chimpymustgo Jan 2013 #83
And if they *do*... Marr Jan 2013 #155
yeah totally "last minute" pasto76 Jan 2013 #39
By design. Our democracy is a circus. geckosfeet Jan 2013 #58
Exactly - when I first saw xxqqqzme Jan 2013 #93
A moderate Republican won the election UnrepentantLiberal Jan 2013 #98
+1 n/t area51 Jan 2013 #140
That's become standard operating procedure now, I've noticed. Marr Jan 2013 #154
yeah they were able to avoid any public debate on the bill before voting on it. limpyhobbler Jan 2013 #159
K&R'd!! snot Jan 2013 #4
Reich just wanted a pony. vi5 Jan 2013 #5
More than that. The pony had to be brilliant white with pink mane and glitter. R. Daneel Olivaw Jan 2013 #11
And one farting rainbows all day. BlueCaliDem Jan 2013 #21
Sensible woodchucks know how to deal with Dr.Reich. Jackpine Radical Jan 2013 #33
This doesn't make sense ProSense Jan 2013 #7
I'm glad you're feeling better and back up to speed PS. You didn't seem to be yourself yesterday. R. Daneel Olivaw Jan 2013 #10
heh. SammyWinstonJack Jan 2013 #43
I don't think Robert Reich gives a shit as long as Cha Jan 2013 #110
I actually know Mr. Reich. R. Daneel Olivaw Jan 2013 #111
I don't have an analysis.. I'm glad there are those who are Cha Jan 2013 #113
"I don't have an analysis." R. Daneel Olivaw Jan 2013 #118
Yes, I'm sure you are. I know I trust VP Biden, Senator Bernie Sanders, Cha Jan 2013 #120
That's nice. R. Daneel Olivaw Jan 2013 #128
it sure is hfojvt Jan 2013 #136
What I would have liked to witness, at the very least, R. Daneel Olivaw Jan 2013 #162
What does Robert Reich know about anything? Pshaw, pshaw. R. Daneel Olivaw Jan 2013 #8
Repeat often: AlbertCat Jan 2013 #9
What about the long-term unemployed. What would have happened to them then? BlueCaliDem Jan 2013 #23
My long-term UI benefits were abruptly ended on May 12, 2012 when California blithely coalition_unwilling Jan 2013 #28
That, unfortunately, is typical for them. They couldn't care less when you are in trouble, Egalitarian Thug Jan 2013 #44
That is your response? That poster probably doesnt even live in California and cannot vote there stevenleser Jan 2013 #61
With a screen name like 'BlueCaliDem'??? OK, but I just love it when coalition_unwilling Jan 2013 #105
One of the reasons that I am so disgusted with the long, long discussion about the fiscal JDPriestly Jan 2013 #92
That was the purpose of creating this artificial crisis. Keep the sheeple scared and distracted Egalitarian Thug Jan 2013 #99
Thanks. It's a game to distract Americans from the real issues of imports and their impact JDPriestly Jan 2013 #104
And a quick glance at GD page 1 shows how devastatingly effective it is. Egalitarian Thug Jan 2013 #112
Agreed. Chathamization Jan 2013 #100
The same thing that might still happen. enlightenment Jan 2013 #29
What would have happened to them then? AlbertCat Jan 2013 #59
How about you get off yours first? BlueCaliDem Jan 2013 #134
Do you even think before you post? AlbertCat Jan 2013 #137
Something could be worked out soon after the clift. wisteria Jan 2013 #70
They don't matter to anyone who won't create a jobs program. jtuck004 Jan 2013 #75
So true. JDPriestly Jan 2013 #94
+1 Everyone's already forgotten last years 99ers leftstreet Jan 2013 #153
I wish Third Way types would stop hiding behind Unemployment Benefits. Marr Jan 2013 #158
I wished EmoProgs/Libertarians would stop trying to burn down the village to save it BlueCaliDem Jan 2013 #166
Ooh-- "EmoProg", "purist", AND an accusation of not voting for Obama all in one paragraph! Marr Jan 2013 #167
Why do we want to restore military spending? Puregonzo1188 Jan 2013 #102
It's really about preventing cuts to military spending. Leopolds Ghost Jan 2013 #148
K & R, one party rule for the next 4 years, because we celebrate crumbs & mother earth Jan 2013 #13
^^^^this^^^^ me b zola Jan 2013 #91
"quickly offer legislation that grants a middle-class tax cut and restores most military spending.." alcibiades_mystery Jan 2013 #15
Cut military spending in half and we will all be safer! Coyotl Jan 2013 #97
no, actially, he said "A" middle class tax cut hfojvt Jan 2013 #138
I agree with him, wisteria Jan 2013 #16
Robert Reich is there to lull the GOP into thinking they got more than they did.... WCGreen Jan 2013 #17
5. The Bush Tax Cuts and Big War are the Main Drivers of the Deficit. This protects War grahamhgreen Jan 2013 #18
+1000 nt abelenkpe Jan 2013 #19
We should have nineteen50 Jan 2013 #20
K and R - I agree with Reich (and Krugman). NRaleighLiberal Jan 2013 #22
Krugman doesn't believe President Obama could have gotten a better deal ProSense Jan 2013 #32
Ronald Reagan Post Office reteachinwi Jan 2013 #48
I think I'd rather we just went over the damn cliff already. CanonRay Jan 2013 #24
Neither Reich nor Krugman provide any strategy for how a better deal Liberal_Stalwart71 Jan 2013 #26
Um, the cliff was and is a better deal than what has been negotiated (so far) in the coalition_unwilling Jan 2013 #34
The Congress is responsible for negotiating and how do you negotiate with thugs? Liberal_Stalwart71 Jan 2013 #36
"Going over the clff" (or better yet, stepping off the curb) would have meant coalition_unwilling Jan 2013 #106
I think Labor Secretary Reich knows how governance works DisgustipatedinCA Jan 2013 #35
I teach political science at the college level, and while I think I'm a fine professor Liberal_Stalwart71 Jan 2013 #41
So the only people qualified to speak about governance DisgustipatedinCA Jan 2013 #45
No, not necessarily, but don't we want to seek solutions? If the complaint is Liberal_Stalwart71 Jan 2013 #49
When the next Congress convenes, we'll have more seats in the House MessiahRp Jan 2013 #139
"a middle-class tax cut and restores most military spending" - which is what this achieves muriel_volestrangler Jan 2013 #27
Yes, the deal was not great. Yes, the deal will be replayed in plethoro Jan 2013 #30
A $5 million threshhold on the inheritance tax doesn't maintain "dynasties" starroute Jan 2013 #31
Leave it to some Ds to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory BainsBane Jan 2013 #37
Some people know how to tap into underthematrix Jan 2013 #65
kick WashingtonConsensus Jan 2013 #38
Caved again 4dsc Jan 2013 #40
Tell me how YOU would get a better deal through the House. Pleas be specific. Liberal_Stalwart71 Jan 2013 #42
The importance of not making the deals that led directly to the "cliff" this one, and the next and TheKentuckian Jan 2013 #55
OK, maybe you would be willing to lose those benefits, but why subject others Liberal_Stalwart71 Jan 2013 #63
Why Won't The Obama Team Listen To This Man??? supercats Jan 2013 #46
Maybe they do listen to him but he offers no way for his ideas to get through Congress Liberal_Stalwart71 Jan 2013 #51
He speaks about helping us out, but really, what has he done to help us out? wisteria Jan 2013 #68
Trading temporary tax cuts and UI benefits for a permanent 64% tax cut and a $4M per family gift Egalitarian Thug Jan 2013 #47
The uber-wealthy in America TM99 Jan 2013 #133
You misunderstand what I wrote. This deal, should it happen, sucks in so many ways Egalitarian Thug Jan 2013 #135
I understood TM99 Jan 2013 #144
+1 woo me with science Jan 2013 #145
Like both sides were saying, nobody was going to like it all. I'm very happy with some gateley Jan 2013 #52
Reich is right. (nt) DirkGently Jan 2013 #53
DON'T restore most military cuts. spooky3 Jan 2013 #54
Cut defense in half to make the world a safer place! Coyotl Jan 2013 #127
Agreed. I think I would have preferred the cliff. But it still has to be voted on in the house. geckosfeet Jan 2013 #56
Reich is losing me on this one. $5 million exemption for inheritance is fair. Zen Democrat Jan 2013 #62
This is a completely irrational viewpoint, particularly understanding who we are dealing with here. stevenleser Jan 2013 #64
"every Democrat/Liberal/Progressive should be toasting it and cheering" limpyhobbler Jan 2013 #103
It also repeals a part of the ACA. Savannahmann Jan 2013 #66
You understand that CLASS was problematic from the start, right? stevenleser Jan 2013 #69
Yes, because it's expensive to care for the disabled Savannahmann Jan 2013 #80
Everything you just said is besides the point. CLASS was NEVER going to go into effect. It needed to stevenleser Jan 2013 #82
So as I said, fuck the disabled. Savannahmann Jan 2013 #124
No, now you are changing your tune. If you really care about the disabled... stevenleser Jan 2013 #152
We lost nothing? Savannahmann Jan 2013 #156
We did NOT have the CLASS act. As many of us have been trying to tell you.That was DOA two years ago stevenleser Jan 2013 #160
Was it or was it not part of the ACA which was passed by Congress and signed into law? Savannahmann Jan 2013 #161
For all intents and purposes, no, it was not part of ACA. nt stevenleser Jan 2013 #163
Really? Savannahmann Jan 2013 #164
Really. An unworkable provision is no provision at all. nt stevenleser Jan 2013 #165
The CLASS Act has been gone. Why are you parroting the RW on this? Zen Democrat Jan 2013 #73
Weak kneed again? Raggaemon Jan 2013 #67
because the truth is the democratic party is corrupt fascisthunter Jan 2013 #72
That seems to NorthCarolina Jan 2013 #89
And that about sums it up. woo me with science Jan 2013 #141
+1 Marr Jan 2013 #168
Why did I know that this would happen?? Leopolds Ghost Jan 2013 #71
because you, me, and many other independent minded posters aren't suckers fascisthunter Jan 2013 #76
Or just a natural cynic Leopolds Ghost Jan 2013 #85
Thanks for the laugh.... whistler162 Jan 2013 #95
Oh gee Really, we are now? Leopolds Ghost Jan 2013 #146
nope... you just aren't that clever fascisthunter Jan 2013 #169
I know! woo me with science Jan 2013 #142
GOP negotiating strength much stronger than warranted merely because the left ignores RW radio certainot Jan 2013 #74
Arguing over the fiscal cliff sulphurdunn Jan 2013 #77
the republicans have exposed themselves as entitlement killers lovuian Jan 2013 #78
Unfortunately, more than just "the republicans" have been exposed. nt NorthCarolina Jan 2013 #90
No way the GOP would cave in on the debt ceiling now creeksneakers2 Jan 2013 #79
Holy Elizabeth Barrett Browning, Batman! gulliver Jan 2013 #81
K&R nt ProudProgressiveNow Jan 2013 #84
Post removed Post removed Jan 2013 #86
The legislation does NOT "make the bush tax cuts permanent." stopbush Jan 2013 #87
Social Security and other similar programs for most of us are still on the line. JDPriestly Jan 2013 #88
Wake Up, Folks! The less they take from the super-duper rich, MsPithy Jan 2013 #96
Robert Reich lives in a fantasy land... Drunken Irishman Jan 2013 #107
you heaven05 Jan 2013 #157
The House is irrelevant now. Coyotl Jan 2013 #108
Cheer up. The GOP house hates it too, so probably won't pass it. magical thyme Jan 2013 #109
Amazing .... humbled_opinion Jan 2013 #115
It's a great deal! AAO Jan 2013 #116
Post removed Post removed Jan 2013 #117
yes, those groupies are indeed sickening Skittles Jan 2013 #121
Money talks. The Wealthy always win and will continue to do so until we the sabrina 1 Jan 2013 #119
I wanted a unicorn that farted glitter damn it!! LW1977 Jan 2013 #122
Kick. woo me with science Jan 2013 #123
My Senator, Michael Bennet, a Democrat, voted NO mountain grammy Jan 2013 #125
Good for him. n/t Leopolds Ghost Jan 2013 #149
Read the article. This deal, overall, obscenely favors the rich. woo me with science Jan 2013 #129
Why isn’t Obama demanding corporate welfare cuts? $2.6 trillion without touching Safety Net! KoKo Jan 2013 #130
That's an interesting link muriel_volestrangler Jan 2013 #150
Here's the beef: Doctor_J Jan 2013 #132
uh oh, another "extreme far leftist" criticizing obama. nt tomp Jan 2013 #143
When will he learn he is irrelevant Leopolds Ghost Jan 2013 #147
du rec. nt xchrom Jan 2013 #151
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