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JanMichael

(24,846 posts)
34. I am not sure this should have resulted in a suspension
Tue Jan 1, 2013, 05:16 AM
Jan 2013

this student sounds like she needs support, and help....NOT shunning.

Because, of course... regnaD kciN Dec 2012 #1
Yes, it would be a horrible thing if anyone tried to understand how this happened, or to try to talk Brickbat Dec 2012 #2
What means "discovered?" immoderate Dec 2012 #3
I had a spiral notebook that I used for science class WolverineDG Dec 2012 #28
So -- did you get extra credit? immoderate Jan 2013 #33
The teacher left a note WolverineDG Jan 2013 #42
Gotcha! immoderate Jan 2013 #49
Wrong...! regnaD kciN Jan 2013 #78
School is indeed about conformity. kentauros Jan 2013 #110
The thought police at it again Angry Dragon Dec 2012 #4
I'm an English teacher, and I'm appalled. knitter4democracy Dec 2012 #5
I wrote some seriously dark and disturbed poetry... a la izquierda Dec 2012 #24
That's what we're supposed to do. knitter4democracy Jan 2013 #39
*Rejection* rather than dealing with it Last Stand Jan 2013 #44
Suppression of free speech is as American as cherry pie. - n/t coalition_unwilling Jan 2013 #82
Really? She "knows why" he pointed a semi-automatic weapon at 6 year old kids & pulled the trigger? Warren DeMontague Dec 2012 #6
Yeah let's just toss aside freedom of expression davidn3600 Dec 2012 #7
Yeah! ...Or, we could just dance around a giant fucking straw man made of red herrings. Warren DeMontague Dec 2012 #8
^^^^^ THIS ^^^^^ 11 Bravo Dec 2012 #9
All this without having read the poem. Luminous Animal Dec 2012 #11
Ohhhhh, Heavens, the outrage. The unfair-ittyness of it all. Warren DeMontague Dec 2012 #12
This message was self-deleted by its author Luminous Animal Dec 2012 #16
It is a charter school. I have no clue how they run their business. Luminous Animal Dec 2012 #20
I think she maybe could benefit from some empathy classes, and/or psychotherapy Warren DeMontague Dec 2012 #21
Again, you haven't read the poem. You haven't a clue whether or not empathy was Luminous Animal Dec 2012 #23
Given what I've seen of the poem, she doesn't have a clue as to what this tragedy was about. Warren DeMontague Dec 2012 #25
Link to the poem? Even my friends on the school board haven't seen it. Luminous Animal Dec 2012 #26
They should try using teh google. Warren DeMontague Dec 2012 #27
Can we see the entire poem or is that the only part that NBC will allow us to see? Luminous Animal Dec 2012 #29
Yes, I'm sure it's a MASSIVE media conspiracy. Warren DeMontague Dec 2012 #30
So, you are not interested in seeing the entire poem? Luminous Animal Dec 2012 #32
by the "populous", do you mean the "populace"? Warren DeMontague Jan 2013 #35
Why yes, I did mean populace. I blame it on the bourbon... Luminous Animal Jan 2013 #62
Keep kickin the thread. Warren DeMontague Jan 2013 #64
And there it is. I said my friends hadn't seen it. I didn't say no one had seen it. Luminous Animal Jan 2013 #68
Weren't you the one, back in October, starting threads about a certain site admin's mom Warren DeMontague Jan 2013 #69
Good luck finding any post from me that advocates or supports Luminous Animal Jan 2013 #75
OK, Here's the hidden thread. You also characterized it as a word whose use causes Warren DeMontague Jan 2013 #83
No. An anonymous person scrawling a well-known anti-woman slur on my house Luminous Animal Jan 2013 #89
...She's NOT being "censored", and I've said I don't think expulsion is warranted here. Warren DeMontague Jan 2013 #90
You are making two assumptions that are incorrect... Luminous Animal Jan 2013 #97
I am about as anti-censorship as they come; still one ought to be sensitive to the fact Warren DeMontague Jan 2013 #98
So what? Lots of people are pissed off at the government davidn3600 Dec 2012 #31
I read one line: "I understand the killings... I know why he pulled the trigger" Warren DeMontague Dec 2012 #13
She could have said 50 other sentences that might have put it in context... Luminous Animal Dec 2012 #15
Maybe. Warren DeMontague Dec 2012 #18
No, she can't. NutmegYankee Jan 2013 #41
I think you would find that schools have an awful lot of latitutude to determine, one, Warren DeMontague Jan 2013 #52
And the courts will overrule that and slam the tax payers with quite a bill. NutmegYankee Jan 2013 #53
We'll see, won't we, then. Warren DeMontague Jan 2013 #54
We will see. I'm betting she doesn't get expelled and the suspension is lifted. NutmegYankee Jan 2013 #55
I'm not betting either way. Warren DeMontague Jan 2013 #56
But that just focuses on the content of her speech. NutmegYankee Jan 2013 #58
So fucking what? Warren DeMontague Jan 2013 #59
First of all BarackTheVote Jan 2013 #73
There is also a difference between "trying to" understand and stating flat out "i understand" Warren DeMontague Jan 2013 #86
"understanding" is quite often the reult of genuine "trying to understand" BarackTheVote Jan 2013 #102
... SammyWinstonJack Dec 2012 #22
That was a bullshit ruling white_wolf Jan 2013 #38
Where do we draw the line? Drunken Irishman Jan 2013 #101
This message was self-deleted by its author WilliamPitt Jan 2013 #37
Post removed Post removed Jan 2013 #99
How many rhymes were there ellie Dec 2012 #10
It's about alienation! From Society, maaaaaan! Warren DeMontague Dec 2012 #14
"and in the end... I blame society!" Warren DeMontague Dec 2012 #17
Consider the ratio of imaginary murderers to real murderers. immoderate Jan 2013 #36
People should be troubled nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #19
I am not sure this should have resulted in a suspension JanMichael Jan 2013 #34
That school is about to take a serious ass wooping. NutmegYankee Jan 2013 #40
Sounds like an automatic visit to the school psychologist, but aikoaiko Jan 2013 #43
Of course, if the teacher had just graded the work and then that student did something awful hughee99 Jan 2013 #45
It wasn't an assignment in the first place. (nt) Posteritatis Jan 2013 #50
Here is a different poem. One which produced a different outcome: KurtNYC Jan 2013 #46
Love that song. Has a sound like nothing else. BarackTheVote Jan 2013 #81
I think we perpetually "solve" the wrong problem KurtNYC Jan 2013 #106
politically correct SCHOOLS? sheesh. blargh. san fran? ugh. i'm embarressed 2 be liberal... farminator3000 Jan 2013 #47
"I know why he pulled the triger" (her spelling) Warren DeMontague Jan 2013 #60
not really, its called a poem...what does spelling have to do with anything? farminator3000 Jan 2013 #61
Eh. She's no Dylan Thomas. And, she's in High School. Warren DeMontague Jan 2013 #63
yeah, she seems really dangerous... farminator3000 Jan 2013 #66
And how is anyone supposed to determine that the psycho kid is 'disturbed'? Warren DeMontague Jan 2013 #67
by talking to them? farminator3000 Jan 2013 #74
I haven't said I think she's a "psycho", have I? Warren DeMontague Jan 2013 #85
you seem to be implying something here- farminator3000 Jan 2013 #87
Yes. If you dont eat your meat, you cant have any pudding. Warren DeMontague Jan 2013 #88
Any time anyone threatens your artistic liberties BarackTheVote Jan 2013 #80
Good luck. Warren DeMontague Jan 2013 #84
Did you NEVER write a poem when you were a teenager? Chorophyll Jan 2013 #103
Does not validate suspension TXDem72 Jan 2013 #92
That wasn't my question. My question was whether that person saw a problem with the statement. Warren DeMontague Jan 2013 #93
I guess I must have spent the years 1979 - 1986 crying for help then. Chorophyll Jan 2013 #104
maybe another student found it and told their parents? kinda sounds like police involved? farminator3000 Jan 2013 #48
I thought the teacher was snooping. Mdterp01 Jan 2013 #51
If a folder's left in my room, I look inside to see whose it is. knitter4democracy Jan 2013 #72
People write dark poetry. Life can be very dark. It's good for people to have an outlet. Puregonzo1188 Jan 2013 #57
And if a kid does kill themselves/others after their "dark poetry" was found by teachers KittyWampus Jan 2013 #65
That's my take, too. Warren DeMontague Jan 2013 #70
It's the teacher's job to touch base with the student. knitter4democracy Jan 2013 #71
yeah because if someone's emotionally disturbed, the best thing is to institutionall ruin their life unblock Jan 2013 #76
The "thought police" are out full time! Often I wonder if the McCarthy era will return. n/t RKP5637 Jan 2013 #77
Sounds to me like the teacher was doing CYA and offloading it onto the RKP5637 Jan 2013 #79
A suspension over this is unconstitutional and stupid TXDem72 Jan 2013 #91
I think suppressing "bong hits 4 Jesus" was worse, personally. Warren DeMontague Jan 2013 #94
WE NEED ARMED GUARDS AT EVERY POETRY SLAM!!!! Taverner Jan 2013 #95
Poetry Slam? Warren DeMontague Jan 2013 #100
Their response doesn't address the issue ecstatic Jan 2013 #96
I would say the chance she's being idiot outweighs the chance that she's a sociopath by A LOT. Chorophyll Jan 2013 #105
I agree. I remember writing an awful one ecstatic Jan 2013 #107
I just wrote horrendous stuff all the time. Chorophyll Jan 2013 #108
This is the kid who wrote the poem... Chorophyll Jan 2013 #109
So very wrong. knitter4democracy Jan 2013 #112
so it is real damn obvious that any cries for help will be punnished at that school dembotoz Jan 2013 #111
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