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11. It's really silly to talk about Obama getting a mandate

Reply to ProSense (Original post)

Tue Jan 1, 2013, 01:50 AM

Jan 2013

Yes he won handily as did Democrats over all in the Senate. But House districts are so badly gerrymandered that Republicans have a large structural advantage, thus mitigating any potential mandate. A mandate is a theoretical thing. The pivot point in the House being at the 218th vote is not. Any deal will be centered around what that person is willing to settle for or is able to be coerced to vote for.

Moveon can talk about a mandate, but they can't explain how to get from that to a better bill given the current configuration of the House.

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MoveOn Opposes Fiscal Cliff Deal [View all] ProSense Jan 2013 OP

Voters gave President Obama a mandate.... Skittles Jan 2013 #1

And $400k is nearly 2x $250. R. Daneel Olivaw Jan 2013 #4

yup Skittles Jan 2013 #8

I'm not sure that I can put a finger on it, but at times R. Daneel Olivaw Jan 2013 #2

So, are you saying that OP should either march in lockstep bama_blue_dot Jan 2013 #14

I guess they're in good company. RomneyLies Jan 2013 #3

Thank you MoveOn! In Truth We Trust Jan 2013 #5

anything that doesn't tax the rich and end the cuts for them and others is a failure to me. roguevalley Jan 2013 #35

The move from $250,000 t0 $450,000 seems a trite point alcibiades_mystery Jan 2013 #6

How desperate were Democrats to avoid the cliff? ProSense Jan 2013 #9

Don't agree alcibiades_mystery Jan 2013 #12

The increase is not ProSense Jan 2013 #15

Fine, top 1% alcibiades_mystery Jan 2013 #19

What's the revenue differential? Cali_Democrat Jan 2013 #20

The Republicans were never going to give up bama_blue_dot Jan 2013 #16

I agree in a way. I see it as numerically significant, going down the bell curve, but not coti Jan 2013 #26

Isn't there going to be a fight anyway in the coming weeks? Drunken Irishman Jan 2013 #27

This is silly Cali_Democrat Jan 2013 #7

They're "deeply concerned" that it's a partial deal alcibiades_mystery Jan 2013 #10

As long as Obama holds the line on the debt ceiling... Cali_Democrat Jan 2013 #18

We'll see what happens alcibiades_mystery Jan 2013 #21

I will certainly give Obama that the results of this particular negotiation showed a strength that coti Jan 2013 #28

It's really silly to talk about Obama getting a mandate mythology Jan 2013 #11

yup; mandates don't mean anything Skittles Jan 2013 #23

Did it? What did Bush accomplish in his second term? Drunken Irishman Jan 2013 #29

he was able to destroy the country Skittles Jan 2013 #32

That was cooked before his reelection, sadly. Drunken Irishman Jan 2013 #33

Are we not a Democratic Republic? TheProgressive Jan 2013 #13

To Hell with MoveOn. Skip Intro Jan 2013 #17

I'd say BIG SURPRISE Skittles Jan 2013 #22

You gotta make your own fun here, man. Skip Intro Jan 2013 #24

ProSense, this is one of the very few times I'll agree with you. coti Jan 2013 #25

Please list some examples of how he sold out bama_blue_dot Jan 2013 #30

LOL- I gave him all that, and you're asking for an example of selling out the poor and middle class. coti Jan 2013 #31

My bigger beef is the gutting of the estate tax. oxymoron Jan 2013 #34