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H2O Man

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67. Yep, definitely.
Mon Dec 31, 2012, 09:58 PM
Dec 2012

There may even be a few conservative, corporate non-republicans who prefer to keep people divided. And such divisions are always made by way of appeals to people's lowest levels of thinking: ignorance, fear, and hatred.

In truth, neither the true liberal agenda or progressive agenda stand a snowball's chance in hell, without cooperation and coordination of efforts with one another.

You'll get a different answer from everyone. MineralMan Dec 2012 #1
This is a really great question and timely. MrYikes Dec 2012 #2
What is not stupid tama Dec 2012 #19
Not "stupid" MissMillie Dec 2012 #32
"Progressive" is the term that had to be pressed into service annabanana Dec 2012 #3
Correct Freddie Dec 2012 #15
The term Progressive goes back to the turn of the 20th Century. It denoted substantial reform leveymg Dec 2012 #52
That's a pretty good definition there levey....... socialist_n_TN Dec 2012 #69
Actually, Liberal is actually a terribly non descriptive term. It means UNREGULATED. KittyWampus Dec 2012 #58
The correct historical definitions: H2O Man Dec 2012 #4
As a liberal that ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2012 #9
Not me. I wear Liberalism like a badge of honor. JaneyVee Dec 2012 #11
As do I. n/t 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2012 #30
When the ancient H2O Man Dec 2012 #28
Let me chew on that ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2012 #31
One of the most H2O Man Dec 2012 #36
Funny, you mention Dr. King's "transformation" into a "real" threat ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2012 #50
Jesse's runs -- and H2O Man Dec 2012 #53
I comletely agree ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2012 #57
You were right. H2O Man Dec 2012 #64
Jesse Jackson's key phrase ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2012 #70
I was pleased to stumble across this subthread PETRUS Dec 2012 #65
I've never thought of liberal philosophy as far as how it relates to governing this country. UnrepentantLiberal Dec 2012 #12
Interesting. H2O Man Dec 2012 #68
Of course I connect them with politics. UnrepentantLiberal Jan 2013 #71
Amazing, you offer the actual definition, and instantly folks come to say 'I don't like the real one Bluenorthwest Dec 2012 #20
I wasn't questioning the definition, UnrepentantLiberal Dec 2012 #25
I actually was not referring to you, so I guess your leap is also amazing. Bluenorthwest Dec 2012 #37
Then it was ME who jumped to conclusions. UnrepentantLiberal Dec 2012 #45
Thus, the question becomes: H2O Man Dec 2012 #29
Very astute ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2012 #34
Republicans benefit from that confusion. Bluenorthwest Dec 2012 #39
Yep, definitely. H2O Man Dec 2012 #67
The nature of H2O Man Dec 2012 #66
That's simply incorrect. Downthread, someone has the historical definition of "liberal": Romulox Dec 2012 #41
A wonderful example H2O Man Dec 2012 #48
LOL. You used a term incorrectly, and then proceeded to lecture others ad nauseum. Romulox Dec 2012 #55
Yes. My mistake H2O Man Dec 2012 #56
A "laissez-faire economic policy" is the economics of the hard right, for a start. Romulox Dec 2012 #60
If we were to H2O Man Dec 2012 #63
What's the difference, then, between a "Progressive" and a "Revolutionary"? Not coalition_unwilling Dec 2012 #42
In the context H2O Man Dec 2012 #44
Always an interesting discussion topic. Some dictionary definitions - NRaleighLiberal Dec 2012 #5
None except.. kentuck Dec 2012 #6
This is my impression as well.... hlthe2b Dec 2012 #10
in the spirit nraleighliberal xchrom Dec 2012 #7
The definition of liberal is quite different in England. UnrepentantLiberal Dec 2012 #14
. NRaleighLiberal Dec 2012 #21
... xchrom Dec 2012 #24
All Progressives are also Liberal but not all Liberals are also Progressive. JaneyVee Dec 2012 #8
"Progressive" has not yet been fully demonized? Fumesucker Dec 2012 #13
Believe me they're working on it Freddie Dec 2012 #16
^This^ Bad_Ronald Dec 2012 #23
Not me. UnrepentantLiberal Dec 2012 #26
Liberal is a noun and progressive is a verb proud2BlibKansan Dec 2012 #17
"progressive" emphasizes the notion that progress can and should be made HereSince1628 Dec 2012 #18
I've noted that Thom Hartmann seems to use the term "progressive" more often. n/t NRaleighLiberal Dec 2012 #22
Hubert Humphrey and George McGovern. nt. Warren Stupidity Dec 2012 #27
Liberals know the direction we need to move randr Dec 2012 #33
17, 18, & 33 work for me. Gidney N Cloyd Dec 2012 #35
Both terms are meaningless. mmonk Dec 2012 #38
Originally, "progressives" were Republicans and northern Democrats around 1900 Recursion Dec 2012 #40
Do we not like Daily Kos here? timesamillion Dec 2012 #43
That was posted in 2008. Too late to comment, I'm afraid. ;-) leveymg Dec 2012 #54
Corporatists are busy with propaganda to try woo me with science Dec 2012 #46
There are some good points made upthread. LWolf Dec 2012 #47
Speaking of twisting the meaning of words for political purposes... UnrepentantLiberal Dec 2012 #49
I don't think there is much difference in terms of philosophy... Kalidurga Dec 2012 #51
Liberal simply means progressive & isn't specific. In Europe, Neo-Liberal means unregulated markets. KittyWampus Dec 2012 #59
"Neo-liberal" means the same thing in the United States. That's because it's very close to Romulox Dec 2012 #61
History has clouded what liberalism actually is JReed Dec 2012 #62
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