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Obama Quietly Signs Abusive Spy Bill He Once Vowed to Eliminate [View all] JReed Dec 2012 OP

This message was self-deleted by its author darkangel218 Dec 2012 #1

Let them listen to yours without a warrant, then. Me? Still fond of the 4th Amendment villager Dec 2012 #3

+1 Dont_Bogart_the_Pretzel Dec 2012 #5

Same here. I cannot believe how easily some give up their rights. nt Mojorabbit Dec 2012 #25

It's what those who are so easily taking rights from them, count on. villager Dec 2012 #46

Me, too. nt LWolf Dec 2012 #55

I'm sure you are a very interesting person.... RichGirl Jan 2013 #80

Love that Amendment myself. Savannahmann Jan 2013 #84

I am not surprised. You are willing to give up freedom for security. rhett o rick Dec 2012 #6

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Of course. Make them get a court order. Do you think we should wave the Constitution rhett o rick Dec 2012 #10

It could take days or weeks. darkangel218 Dec 2012 #11

No it doesnt take days. There are quick methods. In any case blanket surveillance is not warranted. rhett o rick Dec 2012 #12

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Post removed Post removed Jan 2013 #74

I'd rather be "unsafe...." mike_c Jan 2013 #77

I know you would. nt darkangel218 Jan 2013 #78

So would I. Occulus Jan 2013 #86

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What <prize> are you willing to give up the next time the governement comes calling? Oldenuff Jan 2013 #92

Elegantly and eloquently stated. indepat Dec 2012 #58

Have a Happy Year and be back next year ready to fight harder. nm rhett o rick Dec 2012 #61

That's about the size of it. (nt) DirkGently Dec 2012 #59

How about reading your emails? progressoid Dec 2012 #13

Umm... my emails are pretty silly. Alot of kittehs pics :D darkangel218 Dec 2012 #18

Common response among the selfish. progressoid Dec 2012 #21

So youre calling me selfish? darkangel218 Dec 2012 #22

You're the one defending it. progressoid Dec 2012 #23

Well i personally dont have a problem, do you want me to lie? darkangel218 Dec 2012 #24

You said you're from Europe. theaocp Dec 2012 #26

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Don't think so? Think again. theaocp Dec 2012 #33

I have np clue where youre going with that. darkangel218 Dec 2012 #35

Allow me dumb this down for you. theaocp Dec 2012 #37

Ah the "nothing to hide" argument JReed Dec 2012 #43

this mac56 Jan 2013 #85

"Can you see how this can be a problem for other people outside of your bubble?" darkangel218 Dec 2012 #28

Actually your opinion DOES count. progressoid Dec 2012 #63

Well lol it matters as much as an online forum opinion can matter darkangel218 Dec 2012 #64

might not be a bubble green for victory Dec 2012 #29

Again, what have yall done to change it? darkangel218 Dec 2012 #31

We elected a Democratic president and expected him to undo Bush's transgression on our Constitution. rhett o rick Dec 2012 #40

Good point. darkangel218 Dec 2012 #45

Would you draw the line at your doorstep, or can they come on in anytime to check to see Dustlawyer Dec 2012 #56

.... darkangel218 Dec 2012 #62

You're adorable. Brickbat Dec 2012 #17

Why thank you :p darkangel218 Dec 2012 #19

Uhhhhhhhhhh Dyedinthewoolliberal Dec 2012 #27

Do you really think theyre going to intercept random peoples emails.and.phone calls? darkangel218 Dec 2012 #32

that's the point though Dyedinthewoolliberal Dec 2012 #41

How many courts are going to deny the orders? darkangel218 Dec 2012 #44

Wow.. you have no idea do you. SomethingFishy Jan 2013 #79

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That's also how you persecute political disidents, whistleblowers, etc. Marr Dec 2012 #38

I know that and im not telling anyone to agree with me. darkangel218 Dec 2012 #49

We had to destroy the Bill of Rights Jackpine Radical Dec 2012 #51

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The precedent has already been set in the courts. Jackpine Radical Dec 2012 #53

Im not too familiar with those laws in detail darkangel218 Dec 2012 #54

I just want to thank you Cal Carpenter Dec 2012 #60

The fuck? Starry Messenger Dec 2012 #65

How about your lawyer's or broker's phone calls. Festivito Jan 2013 #71

Do you invest money off shore? I dont. darkangel218 Jan 2013 #72

On shore, because that is where the OP problem is that you did not answer. Festivito Jan 2013 #75

OP asked me a question that i did not answer? darkangel218 Jan 2013 #76

Better yet: How about government spying on your lawyer's or broker's phone calls? Festivito Jan 2013 #81

I dont have "investment portofolios", so i wouldnt care about that. I didnt (re) passed this bill, darkangel218 Jan 2013 #89

"Piling up" my ONE question on someone with no investments, no retirement, no friends... Festivito Jan 2013 #93

Oh so i have nothing because i dont have investments?? darkangel218 Jan 2013 #97

Right, you have no financial transactions to go over phone lines. Festivito Jan 2013 #99

wow piratefish08 Jan 2013 #82

Fighting terrorism...or is it just a reason to strip us of our liberties? Oldenuff Jan 2013 #91

Give away your own rights, do not try to give away anyone else's. People sabrina 1 Jan 2013 #94

"inteligence" - really????? I mean REALLY?!?!?!?!?!??! grahamhgreen Jan 2013 #98

Absolutely terrifying, isn't it? Egalitarian Thug Jan 2013 #100

WTF Skittles Jan 2013 #101

I feel like Obama doesn't want to take the chance of anything happening TwilightGardener Dec 2012 #2

You think he is continuing the Bush era spying because the Republicans have him "boxed in"? rhett o rick Dec 2012 #7

It's far less risky for him to allow FISA to continue (it's been the law for TwilightGardener Dec 2012 #16

Risky, how? He can't run again. Marr Dec 2012 #39

Risky in terms of legacy, certainly, if he goes out of his way to TwilightGardener Dec 2012 #42

He needs to do these things to be re-elected green for victory Dec 2012 #4

This is an egregious violation of our Constitution. I expect that from a Republican. rhett o rick Dec 2012 #9

Obama is a lying, conniving, lying, sack of shit who doesn't give a rats ass about this nation. Sheepshank Dec 2012 #14

Your post is incoherent JReed Dec 2012 #36

LOL, you were assuming your OP and recent response qualifies as intelligent discussion? Sheepshank Dec 2012 #47

Bizarre JReed Dec 2012 #48

Its New Years Eve. alot of people are already tipsy darkangel218 Dec 2012 #50

Perhaps areview of you own posts will reveal you are exactly what you ar talking about Sheepshank Jan 2013 #66

Eh, I largely agree with JReed and yet I posted this after Obama's first debate Fumesucker Jan 2013 #68

But it's OK. He's a Democrat and a Republican will never be in the Oval Office ever again MNBrewer Dec 2012 #20

Like the bullshit fiscal cliff, the bullshit war on terror has dumbass americans whatchamacallit Dec 2012 #34

Obama signs this and everyone makes excuses for him davidn3600 Dec 2012 #57

What exactly does he have convictions about? n/t Jefferson23 Jan 2013 #67

I don't make international phone calls... nt Comrade_McKenzie Jan 2013 #69

It still matters JReed Jan 2013 #70

"International communications" op please give a link to the actual bill, heres the list of signed Sunlei Jan 2013 #73

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This is a discussion board JReed Jan 2013 #90

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kick woo me with science Jan 2013 #95