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Mon Dec 31, 2012, 03:18 PM

Robyn66 (1,658 posts)

43. What else do guns do to people? nt

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69 replies	Author	Time	Post
On guns, and the way the discussions are conducted. [View all]	redgreenandblue	Dec 2012	OP
Thanks for the inane advice	billh58	Dec 2012	#1
The statistics twisting isn't isolated	pipoman	Dec 2012	#2
Still trying to ascribe that chart to Brady, huh?	Scuba	Jan 2013	#46
I can ascribe it to anyone I wish.	pipoman	Jan 2013	#61
Yes, proper use of statistical data is "inane."	Lizzie Poppet	Dec 2012	#28
Your post is a long-winded exercise in willful ignorance.	Robb	Dec 2012	#3
Have you comprehended my post?	redgreenandblue	Dec 2012	#4
plot this?	farminator3000	Jan 2013	#57
Actually, 10,000 gun deaths is 10,000 more than nothing.	Iggo	Dec 2012	#5
Good point, one that the gun culture misses.	Hoyt	Dec 2012	#11
Sometimes absolute numbers are interesting and revealing in and of themselves	Fumesucker	Dec 2012	#6
When something scales up with system size, you need to divide by system size.	redgreenandblue	Dec 2012	#8
You said the numbers always had to divide by population	Fumesucker	Dec 2012	#12
"Argumentum ad Logicam" i.e. "Fallacist's Fallacy"	redgreenandblue	Dec 2012	#16
So you assumed that a group of mostly laymen would have your grasp of statistics immediately	Fumesucker	Dec 2012	#17
Exactly like the NRA assumes	billh58	Dec 2012	#20
There may be a relationship, and I am not in fact claiming that America doesn't have a gun problem.	redgreenandblue	Dec 2012	#21
No...	LP2K12	Dec 2012	#7
Gun huggers hate absolute numbers.	99Forever	Dec 2012	#9
Here's an easy enough rule...IF there were no guns, there could be no gun violence.	jmg257	Dec 2012	#10
The graph you are looking for is this one:	redgreenandblue	Dec 2012	#13
Thanks! nt	jmg257	Dec 2012	#14
I do love that chart	Recursion	Dec 2012	#19
Very interesting.	redgreenandblue	Jan 2013	#55
Linear Corr is too subjective	AldoLeopold	Dec 2012	#29
It can be revealing despite its limitations	Recursion	Jan 2013	#58
Excellent post....	ileus	Dec 2012	#15
What else do guns do to people? nt	Robyn66	Dec 2012	#43
Guns don't do anything to people?	ileus	Dec 2012	#44
So the gun has nothing to do with people being shot?	Robyn66	Jan 2013	#47
OK.	DanTex	Dec 2012	#18
+1000	billh58	Dec 2012	#22
Thanks.	redgreenandblue	Dec 2012	#23
I think the comparison to Vietnam is not entirely valid.	redgreenandblue	Dec 2012	#24
I was there, and you're wrong.	billh58	Dec 2012	#30
I think you read my post the wrong way.	redgreenandblue	Dec 2012	#38
Some fair points, but...	DanTex	Dec 2012	#32
Great post. Thank you. nt	Chorophyll	Dec 2012	#34
that's more than OK!	farminator3000	Jan 2013	#50
I have a problem with this whole discussion	Robyn66	Dec 2012	#25
Statistics are cold, but they are what matters when thinking about policy.	redgreenandblue	Dec 2012	#26
Then why do you need to use statistics	Robyn66	Dec 2012	#33
Because manipulated	billh58	Dec 2012	#35
It is often in a person's best interest to be treated as a statistic.	redgreenandblue	Dec 2012	#39
But you ARE arguing in opposition to	billh58	Dec 2012	#42
Can you argue a point without resorting to ad hominem attacks?	redgreenandblue	Jan 2013	#52
Of course your	billh58	Jan 2013	#56
Because "common sense" can lead to wrong conclusions.	redgreenandblue	Jan 2013	#54
That's great when you arent talking about lives being lost. (nt)	Robyn66	Jan 2013	#60
You are kidding, right?	redgreenandblue	Jan 2013	#64
Ok I give up	Robyn66	Jan 2013	#68
I consider any life lost a tragedy.	redgreenandblue	Jan 2013	#69
Why is per capita so critical, when the U.S. is 10th highest in the world?	DirkGently	Dec 2012	#27
There you go.	billh58	Dec 2012	#31
Among "developed" nations, we are the bottom of the barrel in more ways than one.	Chorophyll	Dec 2012	#36
Unfortunately, too true.	billh58	Dec 2012	#40
I don't think the per capita helps you here	dsc	Dec 2012	#37
I fear the other driver more than any terrorist or gun, plane crash, robber, home invaders, police,	L0oniX	Dec 2012	#41
"The fact that over ten thousand people die from guns each year contains zero usable information."	Scuba	Jan 2013	#45
There is a disturbing trend on this site	Robyn66	Jan 2013	#49
Actually, the 2nd Amendment "has nothing to do with hunting"..n/t	pipoman	Jan 2013	#62
Worst offender: Michael Moore. BULLSHIT	spanone	Jan 2013	#48
Only those supporting control of firearms are under this kind of scrutiny?	Buzz Clik	Jan 2013	#51
No. The arguments in favor of gun posession should face the same scrutiny.	redgreenandblue	Jan 2013	#53
Good! I would love to see....	Buzz Clik	Jan 2013	#59
Or the number of	billh58	Jan 2013	#63
0.0000000008.25 % of US population killed in Sandy Hook Elementary School Massacre.	ehrenfeucht games	Jan 2013	#65
No, because this is again an incorrect way to argue with statistics.	redgreenandblue	Jan 2013	#66
We could talk in absolute numbers. 20 children. 6 women.	ehrenfeucht games	Jan 2013	#67

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