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In the discussion thread: The Journal News has hurt any hope for gun reform. [View all]

Mon Dec 31, 2012, 07:39 AM

82. One Quaker to another, that would be a yes.

Friends Testimony to Integrity commends a life that could be published in detail. I have no concern over my voting record.

I issue permits that require public notice for a living and am tasked to assure that the terms and conditions are met openly and honestly consistent with the Testimony to Integrity. I have no problem with any of it, and the permits I issue are far less dangerous to the public than a CCW permit. Every keystroke, note I write, or document I produce in this position is public record available to the press and subject to publication and has been for the last 20 years. Some in fact have been published.

If folks are truly proud and richeous in their exercise of this right, then I cannot paint a scarlet letter on their house. If ownership must be hidden to avoid the "scarlet letter", then it is no different in moral content than adultery and other things that people do and feel need to be hidden.

If it is the free exercise of their cherished rights, then they should be proud, and unconcerned about publication.

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99 replies	Author	Time	Post
The Journal News has hurt any hope for gun reform. [View all]	Lady Freedom Returns	Dec 2012	OP
you know who else liked "lists?"	datasuspect	Dec 2012	#1
First response goes all Godwin	RomneyLies	Dec 2012	#2
tell me it isn't true.	datasuspect	Dec 2012	#4
What does that have to do with godwinning?	Tien1985	Dec 2012	#12
you realize that it isn't an actual law	datasuspect	Dec 2012	#21
Uh huh	Tien1985	Dec 2012	#28
"Hitler doesn't belong in this conversation, and bringing into it doesn't advance either side's	datasuspect	Dec 2012	#33
I hope your name ends up on a publicly published gun owner's list	RomneyLies	Dec 2012	#69
you failed to answer the series of questions	datasuspect	Dec 2012	#83
The US Eugenics Records Office also liked lists	loyalsister	Dec 2012	#42
There's nothing wrong with organizing information...	Comrade_McKenzie	Dec 2012	#87
I am of german decent. That was not nice.	Lady Freedom Returns	Dec 2012	#5
it's not about nice	datasuspect	Dec 2012	#6
Half of my family that was over there at that time was Nazis.	Lady Freedom Returns	Dec 2012	#9
characterize or describe any actual damage.	datasuspect	Dec 2012	#10
We are losing people due to that stunt by that paper.	Lady Freedom Returns	Dec 2012	#41
Godwinned on the very first reply.	Lizzie Poppet	Dec 2012	#18
i can publish the ideas in coloring book format (.pdf)	datasuspect	Dec 2012	#23
A singularly appropriate format for "ideas" of that sort.	Lizzie Poppet	Dec 2012	#30
bless your heart	datasuspect	Dec 2012	#34
Same to you!	Lizzie Poppet	Dec 2012	#35
You are conveniently ignoring the fact	billh58	Dec 2012	#48
Also, telephone companies and Guinness World Records.	NYC Liberal	Dec 2012	#56
the NRA does - they have quite an expansive "enemies" list...	villager	Dec 2012	#77
Klimt!	JVS	Dec 2012	#81
Owning guns has consequences	RomneyLies	Dec 2012	#3
Do you have an idea on how to fix the damage that has been done by that paper?	Lady Freedom Returns	Dec 2012	#7
Yes. Let gun owners dispose of them, and newspaper run free full page announcement of people	Hoyt	Dec 2012	#14
You think a bunch of ticked off gun owners will do that?	Lady Freedom Returns	Dec 2012	#25
No, but the ones left will be the bigoted right wingers.	Hoyt	Dec 2012	#32
See, now there you go with a generalization that cannot on its BEST DAY happen statistically...	cherokeeprogressive	Dec 2012	#71
What, you guys aren't as law-abiding/moral/responsible as you claim?	Hoyt	Dec 2012	#74
They did a PUBLIC SERVICE	RomneyLies	Dec 2012	#53
What a load of self-righteous bullcrap	slackmaster	Dec 2012	#88
They certainly are not helping. Which makes me wonder about their stated intentions.	bluerum	Dec 2012	#8
That is why we must put our minds together.	Lady Freedom Returns	Dec 2012	#13
silly. registered weapons should not be open to public scrutiny and won't be.	spanone	Dec 2012	#11
The cat is out of the bag. The precedent has been set.	Lady Freedom Returns	Dec 2012	#16
Public opinion	Tien1985	Dec 2012	#17
+1	Lady Freedom Returns	Dec 2012	#20
Jesus, only if you let them	nadinbrzezinski	Dec 2012	#15
That's just it. They want us to go to sleep on this.	Lady Freedom Returns	Dec 2012	#19
Go give some money to the Brady Campaign	nadinbrzezinski	Dec 2012	#24
Not just that will help.	Lady Freedom Returns	Dec 2012	#31
Have you fed your congress critter?	nadinbrzezinski	Dec 2012	#36
They watch the polls to see how they can keep their job. To know what they should back..	Lady Freedom Returns	Dec 2012	#46
And it is time we play the same game	nadinbrzezinski	Dec 2012	#47
You must hate Harry Reid!	Crackinrocket	Dec 2012	#57
He is not my senator	nadinbrzezinski	Dec 2012	#61
You're such a principled individual. Bravo!	Crackinrocket	Dec 2012	#65
And another	billh58	Dec 2012	#85
Yup, but also arming, no pun	nadinbrzezinski	Dec 2012	#99
Oh, the brady "we don't push for gun bans" campaign...	beevul	Dec 2012	#98
The names of the local high school graduates are also published in the papers.	Squinch	Dec 2012	#22
Gun owners are trying to have it both ways	nadinbrzezinski	Dec 2012	#26
There is a belief in gun culture that you are safer if no one knows you have it.	Lady Freedom Returns	Dec 2012	#27
Why are you safer if no one knows? I thought the point was for people to know you are armed.	Squinch	Dec 2012	#38
No, the point is for no one to know.	Mojorabbit	Dec 2012	#62
It's a secret desire of gun onwers	RomneyLies	Dec 2012	#70
People who want guns for protection	defacto7	Dec 2012	#79
Yes, their names. But not their HOME ADDRESSES.	slackmaster	Dec 2012	#89
The phone book publishes home addresses. A host of public sources publish home	Squinch	Dec 2012	#92
My home address doesn't appear in the San Diego phone book, and if I gave you my real name...	slackmaster	Dec 2012	#93
I thought, by definition, "law abiding citizens" don't break the law?	jmg257	Dec 2012	#29
Their not, right now.	Lady Freedom Returns	Dec 2012	#37
There are likely a couple 100 million unregistered guns out there right now.	jmg257	Dec 2012	#40
Lady Freedom Returns what proposed "gun-control" solution do you support? nt	jody	Dec 2012	#39
Mine is a mix of many.	Lady Freedom Returns	Dec 2012	#43
Thanks. Problems and possibly solutions are different for cities with the highest	jody	Dec 2012	#45
Record gun and ammo sales right now.	L0oniX	Dec 2012	#44
LOL	Robb	Dec 2012	#49
If a person is a "proud gun owner"	quaker bill	Dec 2012	#50
They are afraid of the government, not criminals	davidn3600	Dec 2012	#55
But apparently the government already knows	quaker bill	Dec 2012	#67
One Quaker to another - are you a proud voter?	derby378	Dec 2012	#72
One Quaker to another, that would be a yes.	quaker bill	Dec 2012	#82
I would counter, that just because it CAN be published doesn't mean it SHOULD	derby378	Dec 2012	#86
...Carry thy gun as long as thou can'st....	quaker bill	Dec 2012	#97
I wouldn't care if my name was listed for having guns	Kaleva	Dec 2012	#51
oh for pete's sake....	mike_c	Dec 2012	#52
Exactly its happened in several other counties north of Rockland....	Historic NY	Dec 2012	#59
I checked a couple gun forums	sarisataka	Dec 2012	#54
Some mind some don't	Lady Freedom Returns	Dec 2012	#75
Don't publish public records?	NYC Liberal	Dec 2012	#58
So you don't mind the publisher, editor, and several reporters getting doxed, either?	Lizzie Poppet	Dec 2012	#76
Not if they're all public records	NYC Liberal	Dec 2012	#80
Thanks for the reply. And the consistency.	Lizzie Poppet	Dec 2012	#95
Sometimes public records are too easy to access	slackmaster	Dec 2012	#91
They were wrong, but they're not representative of us all	timesamillion	Dec 2012	#60
dont do it cant do it wont matter cant do it no specific definition of assault weapons nope cant do	Warren DeMontague	Dec 2012	#63
Oh bullshit.	Zoeisright	Dec 2012	#64
lol ........no it hasn't	uponit7771	Dec 2012	#66
Makes good sense to publish the names of gun owners. Let's neighbors know who has one, who doesn't.	JDPriestly	Dec 2012	#68
The burglars and home invaders of America lend their moral support	derby378	Dec 2012	#73
Huh? The NRA has hacked your DU account???	madinmaryland	Dec 2012	#78
Publishing names is just a petulant and vindictive act	Union Scribe	Dec 2012	#84
What's really messed up is New York's laws that allow the newspaper to access that information...	slackmaster	Dec 2012	#90
I would love to know what they were looking to accomplish by publishing the names	crazyjoe	Dec 2012	#94
It's not hard to figure out. They're trying to sell more newspapers by ginning up controversy.	slackmaster	Dec 2012	#96

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