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Populist_Prole

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15. Outsourcing is a bad deal for anybody the works for a living.

Sun Dec 30, 2012, 07:19 PM

Dec 2012

Outsourcing may have saved on labor costs but those savings were not passed on to the consumer

Even if the savings were passed on to the consumer ( damn I HATE the word! ) and not just to fatten corporate bottom lines, it still is a net loss no matter how cheap stuff is. The lower cost just solidifies the gains of the still employed, while those who lost their jobs had their livelihoods utter destroyed. They certainly won't be consuming very much. Bad deal.

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The root cause of the failure of the middle class? [View all] 1-Old-Man Dec 2012 OP

I would agree Angry Dragon Dec 2012 #1

I'll also throw in the rise of the big box store and the decline of main street XemaSab Dec 2012 #2

I could be way wrong, but wasn't there a time when Wal Mart stocked mostly domestic goods? 1-Old-Man Dec 2012 #3

That policy didn't outlive Sam Walton by much JHB Dec 2012 #38

^^this^^ Freddie Dec 2012 #4

I agree. meti57b Dec 2012 #13

The chains are more productive. Igel Dec 2012 #32

Unrestrained greed at the top combined with strengthened efforts Laurian Dec 2012 #5

Outsourcing jobs to start with QED Dec 2012 #6

Outsourcing is a bad deal for anybody the works for a living. Populist_Prole Dec 2012 #15

The middle class bought the notion that the "American Dream" writ large was Skidmore Dec 2012 #7

So are you maybe saying relaxing of consumer credit? 1-Old-Man Dec 2012 #10

That definitely contributed to the decline as did the Skidmore Dec 2012 #14

"Free Trade"...... physioex Dec 2012 #8

Bingo Populist_Prole Dec 2012 #12

Hehe... physioex Dec 2012 #20

It's an anagram of sausage. hay rick Dec 2012 #60

I agree. meti57b Dec 2012 #17

I think those days are coming to an end esp. in China and India.... physioex Dec 2012 #21

Tend to agree about the Lewis Point being reached in China, less imminent in India but pampango Dec 2012 #59

Steel moved earlier. Igel Dec 2012 #33

The Grand Old Party. Rex Dec 2012 #9

Conservative economic policy dictates Trajan Dec 2012 #11

The root cause is greed 4 t 4 Dec 2012 #34

gradual removal of social safety net, unions, and taxes on the wealthy RainDog Dec 2012 #16

Great list. Progressive countries have strong safety nets and unions and higher/more progressive pampango Dec 2012 #61

Cutting taxes on the wealthy, demonizing government services and unions. Lex Dec 2012 #18

thier voting GOP KG Dec 2012 #19

The rise of Third Way Democrats MannyGoldstein Dec 2012 #22

I thought this guy wanted a discussion o a Sunday night. Egalitarian Thug Dec 2012 #63

Ronald Reagan's election in 1980. Peregrine Took Dec 2012 #23

It would not be possible for me to agree more with what you just said 1-Old-Man Dec 2012 #26

I couldn't agree more !!!! 4 t 4 Dec 2012 #42

You beat me to it. Brigid Dec 2012 #52

I kind of agree; but ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2012 #24

I think "greed" is a bit simplistic.... physioex Dec 2012 #25

Does one even have to ask? BanTheGOP Dec 2012 #27

WARS !!!! ELI BOY 1950 Dec 2012 #28

Capitalism trumps middle class in the USA NeoConsSuck Dec 2012 #29

Too many people! An economy can only support a given number of craft & trades members at any stage. jody Dec 2012 #30

There was a graph on here that summed it up nicely...... socialist_n_TN Dec 2012 #31

Maybe not the "root cause", but sure as hell contributed to it ... the "death of the liberally- zbdent Dec 2012 #35

From another post: August 3rd, 1981. HughBeaumont Dec 2012 #36

And the gipper did all this without the industry missing a beat or indepat Dec 2012 #39

Greed. 99Forever Dec 2012 #37

Bingo!!!! nt kelliekat44 Dec 2012 #55

I have a couple of ideas why the middle class is not as strong. madfloridian Dec 2012 #40

Ronald F. Reagan is the responsible for the destruction of the middle class The Second Stone Dec 2012 #41

The American people chose to withdraw into a fantasy world. When this happened is debatable, Egalitarian Thug Dec 2012 #43

I trace it to the fact that business interests are better able to sustain pushes mythology Dec 2012 #44

Capitalism Cal Carpenter Dec 2012 #45

This message was self-deleted by its author savebigbird Dec 2012 #46

Automation & the purposeful destruction of Unionism. JaneyVee Dec 2012 #47

Lowering the tax rates on Capital Gains.... WCGreen Dec 2012 #48

Corporations unwilling to pay employees enough to afford their products. nolabear Dec 2012 #49

Trade deficit Yo_Mama Dec 2012 #50

This... frostfern Dec 2012 #54

Yep, economists have f__ked the country Yo_Mama Dec 2012 #66

Ownership class. No need for strong labor after 50's soooo Pretzel_Warrior Dec 2012 #51

I agree. That and too many imports and too much outsourcing. JDPriestly Dec 2012 #53

Corporate personhood. nt Budgies Revenge Dec 2012 #56

DEREGULATION Drew Richards Dec 2012 #57

NAFTA krawhitham Dec 2012 #58

Capitalism Kingwithnothrone Dec 2012 #62

Wall St and the steady deregulation of it. nt raouldukelives Dec 2012 #64

All of the above. moondust Dec 2012 #65