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In reply to the discussion: Senate Votes (73-23)to Extend Sweeping Bush Era Surveillance Power (for Five Years?) WTF! [View all]graham4anything
(11,464 posts)36. A good president can have the same law a bad one does. Don't elect Jeb in 16
What one did when a bad President(Bush ) was in office has NO relation to what one does when a good one is in office(Obama).
Lincoln was a great President.
FDR was a great President
LBJ was a great President
Carter was a great President
Obama is a great President
the constitution is not constant, neither is life
we live, we learn
and we are at war, right here like in the Civil Wars days
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Senate Votes (73-23)to Extend Sweeping Bush Era Surveillance Power (for Five Years?) WTF! [View all]
KoKo
Dec 2012
OP
Lincoln would have done the same thing. Bobby wiretapped MLK secretly too, remember that
graham4anything
Dec 2012
#2
As Elizabeth Warren said- anything is on the table with regard to Iran and terrorist. EVERYTHING
graham4anything
Dec 2012
#13
There would be no patriot act without Ralph Nader throwing the 2000 election to Bush
graham4anything
Dec 2012
#17
Anything goes in wartime and we are at war, right here against the coup'd'etat of the NRA folk
graham4anything
Dec 2012
#31
A good president can have the same law a bad one does. Don't elect Jeb in 16
graham4anything
Dec 2012
#36
and it would be overwritten. Now they count and don't bother wasting space with a veto
graham4anything
Dec 2012
#14
He could be on record for being against infringement of our liberties.
R. Daneel Olivaw
Dec 2012
#23
BTW-MY 1st amendment essential liberty is abused by the 2nd amendment folk
graham4anything
Dec 2012
#37
The "MIC" pays the bills for their election funding...(many enough in both House & Senate).
KoKo
Dec 2012
#11
Mark Lombardi! A Genius who "Connected the Dots" as an artist and REVEALED it..before he died.
KoKo
Dec 2012
#38
I believe that the KGB never had as much info on their citizens as the US does
R. Daneel Olivaw
Dec 2012
#24
"Come Together Over Shared Interests" .....the rest is SCARE Tactics...FISCAL CLIFF!
KoKo
Dec 2012
#42
No worry. The Great Protector of Civil Liberties in the White House will veto it...won't he?
Tierra_y_Libertad
Dec 2012
#29
The first time I voted for him I thought he would. I am not so gullible now. n-t
Logical
Dec 2012
#33
Wow, just a biting as the first time someone used that line with legislation they didn't like.
great white snark
Dec 2012
#41