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In reply to the discussion: In a now locked thread, critical of DUers, critical President Obama ... [View all]bigtree
(85,986 posts)76. I always have to remind myself
. . . that there's a real person behind all of the cynicism and snark that comes from 'Fumesucker'; sometimes a thoughtful intellectual there, as well. You really need a red light or something to signal when you've turned the zingers off if you expect me to approach you with my dukes down.
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In a now locked thread, critical of DUers, critical President Obama ... [View all]
1StrongBlackMan
Dec 2012
OP
The initial response was spontaneous, but it was what happened afterward that made the event importa
OmahaBlueDog
Dec 2012
#15
she was naacp secretary. they'd been looking for test cases for a bus boycott for some time
HiPointDem
Dec 2012
#98
I don't think the people who participated in that "street action" were particularly "progressive,"
MADem
Dec 2012
#83
No, I am not saying that at all. I am saying that progressive values were not the impetus for the
MADem
Dec 2012
#141
From Bayard Rustin's 'From Montgomery To Stonewall'- just to add more from Rustin, for the OP
Bluenorthwest
Dec 2012
#9
He also knew and spoke at length about the fact that activism toward legislative changes can
Bluenorthwest
Dec 2012
#22
Social Security was incremental. It didn't initially provide universal coverage
KittyWampus
Dec 2012
#146
Unbelievable. What I posted is factually correct yet you decide to try and argue.
KittyWampus
Dec 2012
#154
bears repeating for the deniers of the very important slights in that initial bill
bigtree
Dec 2012
#164
then your opposition to the ACA health insurance act must follow the same logic
bigtree
Dec 2012
#176
I remember a president sending federal troops to integrate schools in the South
Fumesucker
Dec 2012
#3
I'd think that would be because there isn't a complete breakdown in the justice system
bigtree
Dec 2012
#7
You're right, it would be much easier today to organize to fight forced integration
Fumesucker
Dec 2012
#52
well, we can't pretend that every initiative and action by the federal government was beneficial
bigtree
Dec 2012
#67
I see the disinfectant working the other way, I grew up in that time and place
Fumesucker
Dec 2012
#61
What is the point you are trying to make about Stonewall? Do you know what happened that night?
Bluenorthwest
Dec 2012
#4
I have posted a few links about Stonewall which I do not expect you to have courage to read
Bluenorthwest
Dec 2012
#13
"they didn't do anything but organize others' vs 'it was not planned as the other actions were'.
Bluenorthwest
Dec 2012
#36
Well you are not being clear at all. Your OP did not even provide a link for context to the thread
Bluenorthwest
Dec 2012
#58
You are the one who made Stonewall rhetorical football of your screed here today. Not me.
Bluenorthwest
Dec 2012
#156
Of course not, you'd rather flame all the Progressives that make up the majority of the board
MessiahRp
Dec 2012
#134
People protested injustice back then b/c they had unbiased reporting that told them about it!
Dustlawyer
Dec 2012
#29
FDR was bold and progressive, but he left a lot of people out in the cold on Social Security
bigtree
Dec 2012
#46
Thanks for your post. I think some tend to over romanticize the fights of the past.
Tarheel_Dem
Dec 2012
#60
Everything you wrote was on the money and substantiated pretty well. Why was the origional locked?
marble falls
Dec 2012
#43
We forget it because it leaves the rest of us out. It is not a valid argument for chained cpi.
madfloridian
Dec 2012
#102
No, Carney does NOT say Obama included exemptions in his proposal. He says he "WOULD" include them..
Honeycombe8
Dec 2012
#170
Since that's your reply to my reply to the original post that you're quoting there,
Blue_In_AK
Dec 2012
#86
He wasn't criticizing you Jim he was making a humorous comment on the poll worker
grantcart
Dec 2012
#137
It seems like there is not a clear division between "holding feet to the fire" and...
Taverner
Dec 2012
#159
Perfect thread. Your knowledge and sound grasp of the facts is exactly what I've come to expect
Number23
Dec 2012
#166
Correct, change comes from the people, the government does not willingly reform itself.
bemildred
Dec 2012
#177