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leveymg

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61. Here's some more about CIA Director Bush, the Saudis, terrorism, death squads, and the aftermath.
Thu Dec 27, 2012, 04:34 PM
Dec 2012

Why is it that the Evil Old Men all seem to die in bed, unlike their many victims?

The biggest pass that GHW got was the Cold War. That seemed to excuse a great many bad things for Bush as CIA Director, including the Operation Condor death squads and his role in the Pinochet regime's assassinations in America (the bombing in Washington that killed Orlando Letelier and Ronnie Moffett), and afterwards.

Then there was the Safari Club arrangement with Prince Turki al Faisal that set up BCCI, armed Saudi Arabia's proxy, Pakistan, with nuclear weapons and allowed the Saudis to set up a global covert paramilitary capability that became al-Qaeda.

Poppy's professional career -- in all its glory -- including Bush family's role in financial piracy, working with the bin Laden and bin Mahfooz in multiple bank lootings and land grabs across the oil patch states which became known as the S&L Crisis . . . it's all here, with citations and sources, waiting for anyone who wants to know how America was looted and colonized by the oilogarchs.

Thank G.H.W. for the original "Safari Club" deal by which the Saudis paid for CIA covert ops that the Democratic Congress and the Carter Administration had banned after the Church and Pike Committee revelations of assassinations, coups, and domestic dirty tricks by the CIA. So, in 1975-76, CIA Director Bush made a deal with Saudi intel chief Prince Turki al-Faisal to outsource and privatize these sorts of things with Saudi money paying for it. In exchange, the Saudis got the Bush CIA's permission to develop the "Islamic atomic bomb" through their proxy, Pakistan, along with the go-ahead to build and field their own covert operations capabilities with Osama bin Laden eventually given command over global logistics and organization. See, http://journals.democraticunderground.com/leveymg/280

That arrangement morphed into CIA Operation Cyclone that brought hundreds of Jihadists into the U.S. for training and safekeeping in the secret war against the Russians and the Serbs that continued right up to 9/11 - despite repeated Jihadist killings of Americans during the 1990s, that sort of entry was so routine that the State Department and INS looked the other way when a bunch of Saudis with known terrorist ties were given visas and allowed entry into the U.S. in the two year period leading up to the attacks. Every time the FBI came close to busting up these cells, the Agency pushed the Bureau away, as was SOP. In 2001, things got so hot that even the CIA Director was alarmed enough to make personal visits to the President, but as always, the Bushes refused to do anything that might antagonize or embarrass their patrons, the Saudis, who by that point owned a large chunk of corporate America and were the primary funders of the Republican Party. See, http://journals.democraticunderground.com/leveymg/308

The Saudis still have a huge slush fund, "al Yamamah" (The Dove) used for intelligence and influence buying operations in the US and UK - basically, the Saudis have bought protection from any accountability or interference using petrodollars and kickbacks from arms purchases, corrupting and blackmailing vast swaths of top officials in both both governments. See, http://journals.democraticunderground.com/leveymg/303

UBL was "our man" (really the Saudi GID intel service and their primary US liaisons, the Bush family) in Khartoum and Kandahar long after the Soviet Union collapsed. The Saudis never really abandoned him or the fight against the Russians over oil. It was obviously in both our and the Saudis mutual interest that UBL never testify about what his actual role was in that war. See, also, http://www.dailykos.com/story/2009/12/04/810764/-Erik-P...


George Bush [View all] searchingforlight Dec 2012 OP
Born on third base and told he hit a triple. nt Javaman Dec 2012 #1
Pappy spawned generations of criminals. lonestarnot Dec 2012 #2
In October of 1980 George HW Bush met w/ Iranians in Paris and told them that they .. Botany Dec 2012 #3
George H has always said he could not remember where he was Angry Dragon Dec 2012 #4
Thanx ..... so many HW "things" the dates run together Botany Dec 2012 #6
Actually, Nixon was never pinned down either ... rtassi Dec 2012 #14
That distant shot sure does look like his stance. You can almost hear his nasal voice. lexw Dec 2012 #23
Inside Iran Contra - Conspiracy of Silence - Regan/Bush cover up of pedophilia penn state style SugarShack Dec 2012 #39
After all he was head of the CIA, although he denied it for years. SugarShack Dec 2012 #49
i dont know where I've been. sellitman Dec 2012 #67
Today that hat sure doesn't look like poppy to me madokie Dec 2012 #69
K&R. Well said. Overseas Dec 2012 #73
A "patrician" who thought he was competent to be Pres. elfin Dec 2012 #5
^^^this is true^^^ n/t irisblue Dec 2012 #13
One of the worst POTUS in American history. Rex Dec 2012 #7
11/22/63 DemoTex Dec 2012 #8
Poor George!!! malaise Dec 2012 #9
Classic! slumdoggandu Dec 2012 #18
To this day I think Ann's great friend hifiguy Dec 2012 #74
Funny I was reading Molly earlier today malaise Dec 2012 #75
he did serve during WW2 tho. pansypoo53219 Dec 2012 #10
His sperm was a weapon of mass destruction Happyhippychick Dec 2012 #11
score! rtassi Dec 2012 #15
Let's not forget where the eggs came from.. sheshe2 Dec 2012 #17
Wasn't she in the first Alien movie? GoneOffShore Dec 2012 #27
But by comparison, he shines.... Mustellus Dec 2012 #12
"Born with a silver spoon up his ass" is more like it. Myrina Dec 2012 #16
Whether you agree with his politics or not silhouete2 Dec 2012 #19
Gimme a break. eom 12AngryBorneoWildmen Dec 2012 #20
"a great American who cares about his country"? DollarBillHines Dec 2012 #21
So you can read his mind now silhouete2 Dec 2012 #31
Yes, you are free to call him a great American, but you won't find many that agree with you. Thor_MN Dec 2012 #44
I didn't come up with the Great American thing silhouete2 Dec 2012 #45
You tried to argue that he was. Thor_MN Dec 2012 #54
No but you can pretend that I "implied" that silhouete2 Dec 2012 #56
I told you nicely that it's fine to have your opinion, but you won't find much support Thor_MN Dec 2012 #72
Keeping innocent Americans locked up in Iraq lark Dec 2012 #22
YOUR opinion is that he is pure evil silhouete2 Dec 2012 #30
Fuck Maturity demwing Dec 2012 #38
Well there you go silhouete2 Dec 2012 #43
Telling people to respect GHW Bush's humanity is an insult demwing Dec 2012 #62
He really was one of the worst Awknid Dec 2012 #41
That is a person's opinion silhouete2 Dec 2012 #47
I find it interesting Awknid Dec 2012 #48
No silhouete2 Dec 2012 #57
This message was self-deleted by its author HangOnKids Dec 2012 #59
Well that's nice to hear silhouete2 Dec 2012 #60
There's the door demwing Dec 2012 #63
Oh I'm not silhouete2 Dec 2012 #64
You are entitled to keep any opinion demwing Dec 2012 #65
But But But HangOnKids Dec 2012 #68
Hitler was a human being and so was Stalin zeemike Dec 2012 #26
Actually, *just* Iran/Contra is enough to say that he isn't a great American who cares about this... eggplant Dec 2012 #29
Isn't that the definition of a politican silhouete2 Dec 2012 #32
Are you honestly comparing Obama to Bush I? eggplant Dec 2012 #78
you beat me to it NoGOPZone Dec 2012 #33
GHW Bush is a sub-human POS Stainless Dec 2012 #50
Let's straighten something out right here. He is a human being.But he has never been a good American rhett o rick Dec 2012 #76
I will not dance on his grave deutsey Dec 2012 #77
I have to admit I'd been cutting him some slack... Lizzie Poppet Dec 2012 #24
I dont worry at all for daddy warbucks RedstDem Dec 2012 #25
The Bush Family: 3 Generations of Evil chuckstevens Dec 2012 #28
+1 and thanks for putting this up. n/t Egalitarian Thug Dec 2012 #71
I wonder if anyone has compiled a list of things that happened lunatica Dec 2012 #34
Is this close enough? Rain Mcloud Dec 2012 #37
Thanks for this list. Awknid Dec 2012 #52
Thanks! lunatica Dec 2012 #55
Here's some more about CIA Director Bush, the Saudis, terrorism, death squads, and the aftermath. leveymg Dec 2012 #61
A great list and one to bookmark when he dies and DUers are scolded for calling him evil riderinthestorm Dec 2012 #66
The historical revision and whitewashing is an ongoing enterprise for GHW's minions and scribes. leveymg Dec 2012 #70
Bar was pretty smokin' when Bush met her in 1940. JohnnyRingo Dec 2012 #35
Yes she was. Little Star Dec 2012 #53
Or: born with a silver foot in his mouth! ananda Dec 2012 #36
That goddamn Bush cabal is a threat to democracy! santamargarita Dec 2012 #40
The Bush family makes me ashamed to be an American PufPuf23 Dec 2012 #42
The ONLY reason GHW served was because his dad was a traitor.... Spitfire of ATJ Dec 2012 #46
searchingforlight- are you looking for those 1000 points of light he promised lunasun Dec 2012 #51
Dan Quayle TeamPooka Dec 2012 #58
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