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Moonwalk

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6. As One who doesn't believe in god, I wouldn't go so far as that....
Thu Dec 27, 2012, 12:57 PM
Dec 2012

The problematic aspect of god is whether he is active in mortal lives or not, and how far that goes. Did he set everything in motion and just let it run? If so, then he is, at worse, an observer of all this free-will stuff, not callous but certainly not omnipotent. Omnipotent means he can do anything he wants and there's no reason for him not to do it--he isn't restrained, like us, by gravity or trying to teach our kids a lesson...because he's god. He can instantly enlighten the bad person and make them into a saint (see St. Paul). So why not do that with crazy gunmen before they mow down children?

The reason most people give for that "Why?" ("Why did god let this happen?&quot , however, is that they believe god does have reasons for, say, letting a manic murder 20 children...we mortals just can't understand why because we're not god. The problem with this is that it negates his omnipotency (see above), and that includes the fact that god should be able to explain why he let this happen. It doesn't matter how unfathomable he is to us as a deity, he is a deity, omnipotent, omniscient, and that leaves no room for the excuse we'd give to our kids of: "It's complicated. You'll understand when you're older..." Sorry, god can or should be able to do better than that.

In the end, however, the whole scenario seems rather spiritually absurd. There is eternal life united with god after our time on Earth....so isn't death a good thing? And what is the point of life on Earth anyhow? That is the REAL question someone is going to have to answer me before I'd be able to buy any of it. And usually, the only answer any spiritual leader has to it..."god alone knows." It always comes to that. Bow your head and trust in god. It's all part of his big plan.

Translation: Please don't stop believing in god and coming to our church because you've realized that god suddenly makes no sense at all....



Let's suppose there is a God and he is all knowing, all loving, etc. etc. wyldwolf Dec 2012 #1
or someone who has already mentioned that people have freedom of will and it will interject when it uponit7771 Dec 2012 #2
If Newtown *WASN'T* "when it wanted to"... gcomeau Dec 2012 #3
Exactly. Shadowflash Dec 2012 #7
For the sake of argument... MicaelS Dec 2012 #13
That could be the case. Absolutely. Shadowflash Dec 2012 #14
But god apparently does intervene all the time. NYC Liberal Dec 2012 #17
Some parents do adopt that attitude. MicaelS Dec 2012 #18
Are human parents omniscient, omnipotent beings? NYC Liberal Dec 2012 #19
That is not a equivalent analogy Shadowflash Dec 2012 #20
Actually, he did not give us the knowledge of what is Right versus what is Wrong cthulu2016 Dec 2012 #21
Then what good is he? Zoeisright Dec 2012 #26
Did you read this? Are_grits_groceries Dec 2012 #4
So god is simply the spirit of love and compassion? That's very nice.... Moonwalk Dec 2012 #8
excellent points. I'll break it down this way wyldwolf Dec 2012 #10
As One who doesn't believe in god, I wouldn't go so far as that.... Moonwalk Dec 2012 #6
Interesting view... TreasonousBastard Dec 2012 #5
Actually, NOT having an eternal framework makes it easier... Moonwalk Dec 2012 #11
Excellent post. KatyMan Dec 2012 #16
Good point, but I haven't heard much lately asking... TreasonousBastard Dec 2012 #25
I'm a religious person, phylny Dec 2012 #28
Du rec. Nt xchrom Dec 2012 #9
the christian god is a sadistic hating bully, incapable of love nt msongs Dec 2012 #12
Great piece... OneMoreDemocrat Dec 2012 #15
Reconciling this horror with belief in powerful or all-powerful deity requires one to Arugula Latte Dec 2012 #22
Perhaps the obvious answer is right. ZombieHorde Dec 2012 #23
How is this in any way relevant or comforting to anyone except those that believe in Egalitarian Thug Dec 2012 #24
God to Step Down at End of Current Term Ichingcarpenter Dec 2012 #27
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