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napoleon_in_rags

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30. They need better ranged non-lethal weapons.

Reply to Stinky The Clown (Original post)

Thu Dec 27, 2012, 04:12 AM

Dec 2012

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A drunken, mean man with a hammer was shot and killed by police last night. [View all] Stinky The Clown Dec 2012 OP

Couldn't they have tasered him? BigDemVoter Dec 2012 #1

he sounds like suicide by cop. It is a professional hazard anymore, probably roguevalley Dec 2012 #11

That was my first thought, too. nt MADem Dec 2012 #14

suicide by cop with a hammer? I would think the cops could set a wider perimeter and Ed Suspicious Dec 2012 #31

no. some people are getting themselves into a terrible roguevalley Dec 2012 #70

This kind of situation was what the taser was originally for. JVS Dec 2012 #20

Throw a net over him? It worked for Roman Centurions. xtraxritical Dec 2012 #21

Indeed. Why isn't this in the bag of tricks available to police? Dems to Win Dec 2012 #60

The cops seem to have MynameisBlarney Dec 2012 #52

tasering is reserved for the totally unarmed CBGLuthier Dec 2012 #96

Shoot to kill is the training, yes Recursion Dec 2012 #2

Interesting phrase there lunatica Dec 2012 #89

Cops are trained, and have always been trained nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #3

Oh. I didn't think of that. True, they are taught to shoot for the chest, not legs—as they move. Thx lexw Dec 2012 #25

As a person who could potentially be standing behind the suspect exboyfil Dec 2012 #37

Not all Police Departments Rincewind Dec 2012 #33

Pepper spray nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #44

not against someone wielding a hammer. pepper spray isnt effective enough to stop a lot of people loli phabay Dec 2012 #64

The town he is from, is a small town. Not sure how many police officers madinmaryland Dec 2012 #56

If this is California, for example, nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #58

It is not California, madinmaryland Dec 2012 #59

Does Maryland have state police training mandates? nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #61

I am with you. Dyedinthewoolliberal Dec 2012 #4

If you hit the bone, or an artery in a leg, you can still kill the owner of the leg. AtheistCrusader Dec 2012 #17

probably out of rubber bullets from the last occupy protest. n/t Ed Suspicious Dec 2012 #32

Completely wrong. Zoeisright Dec 2012 #65

Here's a similar story with a happier ending, from 50 years ago. Gregorian Dec 2012 #5

Great point. lexw Dec 2012 #26

Was your dentist MynameisBlarney Dec 2012 #54

Good point. Gregorian Dec 2012 #67

Indeed. MynameisBlarney Dec 2012 #82

Shooting in the arms / legs is a hollywood / western myth. X_Digger Dec 2012 #6

Aren't LEOs equipped with pepper spray and tasers these days?.... OldDem2012 Dec 2012 #7

not all have tasers for example va state troopers dont carry them. and pepper spray is not for figh loli phabay Dec 2012 #66

So, it's okay to shoot a guy who has a hammer? There are no other ways to subdue him? nt. OldDem2012 Dec 2012 #75

If you get close Jenoch Dec 2012 #76

think of it this way would you fight some guy swinging a hammer at you loli phabay Dec 2012 #79

why not just play some Yoko Ono on the loudspeaker Pretzel_Warrior Dec 2012 #8

This is cold-blooded murder by cop. PufPuf23 Dec 2012 #9

Any cop will tell you that the only reason to fire a weapon is to shoot to kill. eggplant Dec 2012 #10

have to agree with that TorchTheWitch Dec 2012 #15

Of course it was excessive - the man had broken the windows of his own truck muriel_volestrangler Dec 2012 #43

hadn't threatened anyone? arely staircase Dec 2012 #63

He only raised the hammer when he reached the police officer, who didn't move muriel_volestrangler Dec 2012 #91

You are wrong. Jenoch Dec 2012 #77

Cops never try to "wing 'em." That's only in movies. MADem Dec 2012 #12

Sounds like the officers behaved correctly. Demo_Chris Dec 2012 #13

The cops are lame asses. JEB Dec 2012 #16

A drunken, mean man with a hammer was shot and killed by police last night. The CCC Dec 2012 #18

One good hit to the head with a hammer and a person can die mythology Dec 2012 #19

Good post. Plus.... Demo_Chris Dec 2012 #23

This message was self-deleted by its author PufPuf23 Dec 2012 #49

K&R DeSwiss Dec 2012 #22

That was the first thing I thought: take out a leg. What the hell??? lexw Dec 2012 #24

Police are trained to shoot to kill, not shoot to wound. There is obviously a... Poll_Blind Dec 2012 #27

I'm angry to be forced to admit it, but these cops are cowards. defacto7 Dec 2012 #28

At a nearby Hotel to me Riftaxe Dec 2012 #34

Spengler killed his grandmother with a hammer FrodosPet Dec 2012 #36

His grandmother defacto7 Dec 2012 #81

I'm not underestimating a hammers ability to be a defacto7 Dec 2012 #80

Are you a police officer? FrodosPet Dec 2012 #86

Now there's an intelligent comment... defacto7 Dec 2012 #99

Unless they have beanbag rounds with them Warpy Dec 2012 #29

They need better ranged non-lethal weapons. napoleon_in_rags Dec 2012 #30

Any ideas? FrodosPet Dec 2012 #35

Nope. But if you invent one you will be a billionaire. (nt) Demo_Chris Dec 2012 #38

I don't know of anything off the top of my head... But I could make something up. napoleon_in_rags Dec 2012 #45

The Cop did his job as he was trained I suspect dballance Dec 2012 #39

It is terrible that it happened, but I can't find fault with what the cops did. alphafemale Dec 2012 #50

that's exactly what a lot of people here think TorchTheWitch Dec 2012 #72

It's dumbfounding. What did they expect them to do? alphafemale Dec 2012 #92

About an arm's length away from an officer, <name> .... Historic NY Dec 2012 #40

Recent story for the "shoot to kill" morons RandiFan1290 Dec 2012 #41

and what about those tasers? 2pooped2pop Dec 2012 #42

Or PEPPER SPRAY, but maybe that's only recommended for college students HereSince1628 Dec 2012 #46

No. Demo_Chris Dec 2012 #48

Well said. randome Dec 2012 #55

So, basically, he deserved to die. Occulus Dec 2012 #62

Reverse this: Did the officer deserve to die? Demo_Chris Dec 2012 #74

Who actually died? Occulus Dec 2012 #78

Time was available; no-one was in danger, until the police officer stood still muriel_volestrangler Dec 2012 #93

Murderers are what those two are madokie Dec 2012 #47

bring back donco Dec 2012 #51

A baton against a hammer-wielding maniac? I'd rather cops didn't get killed, either. randome Dec 2012 #53

Never handled a baton, have you? sir pball Dec 2012 #73

give a man a hammer, and the whole world looks like a nail. unblock Dec 2012 #57

Forget tasers or pepper spray Nevernose Dec 2012 #68

There are replies in this thread that really are just fucking disgusting. Stinky The Clown Dec 2012 #69

an excellent time druidity33 Dec 2012 #71

Maybe you should let someone hold a hammer over your head with intent to hit you geek tragedy Dec 2012 #83

Maybe you should consider ow the cops let it get to the point where a drunk got that close to them. Stinky The Clown Dec 2012 #85

Darwin award winner. using a weapon to try to attack people armed with guns. geek tragedy Dec 2012 #84

don't bring a hammer to a gun fight datasuspect Dec 2012 #87

The problem with this thread Jenoch Dec 2012 #88

I know there are other cops on this board...where you at!? AgainsttheCrown Dec 2012 #90

Thanks for that reply. I *really* appreciate it. Stinky The Clown Dec 2012 #94

So true! JH19059 Dec 2012 #97

Just my 2 cents JH19059 Dec 2012 #95

Thanks for the reply. Stinky The Clown Dec 2012 #98