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good read Skittles Dec 2012 #1
All you have to do is read what the framers had in mind.... Historic NY Dec 2012 #2
Personally, the existence of inherent countries, laws, and rights ZombieHorde Dec 2012 #3
"my subjective point of view' is redundant. nt laundry_queen Dec 2012 #14
I agree, but I was trying to make a point. nt ZombieHorde Dec 2012 #68
Of course it's a fraud. At the time the Constitution was written, we had no standing army and the world wide wally Dec 2012 #4
I am more than willing to give them the right to bear arms......... 4bucksagallon Dec 2012 #5
So the first amendment will only apply to material produced on printing presses? former9thward Dec 2012 #12
Excellent false equivalency Floyd_Gondolli Dec 2012 #24
Except you never answered the question. former9thward Dec 2012 #25
You never asked me the question Floyd_Gondolli Dec 2012 #27
If you answer No then consistent logic is your enemy. former9thward Dec 2012 #28
Ahh yes, the gun nut alcohol false equivalency Floyd_Gondolli Dec 2012 #29
You love using the words "false equivalency". former9thward Dec 2012 #34
I'll wait for the translation Floyd_Gondolli Dec 2012 #35
This is a discussion board. former9thward Dec 2012 #36
I'll defer to you on empty heads Floyd_Gondolli Dec 2012 #37
then why are you talking about the 1st amendment? farminator3000 Dec 2012 #49
The poster I was replying to wants the 2nd A limited former9thward Dec 2012 #55
um farminator3000 Dec 2012 #50
You are criticizing me on grammar? Please check the grammar in your post. former9thward Dec 2012 #52
"...foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds...." lastlib Dec 2012 #32
I suggest you go to a law school. former9thward Dec 2012 #33
um farminator3000 Dec 2012 #53
A second post by you I can't understand. former9thward Dec 2012 #56
Apparently, Chief Justice Burger didn't know how to read the Constitution either Hugabear Dec 2012 #96
Support for a RWer on DU. former9thward Dec 2012 #109
There's really no need to be a jackass about it. lastlib Dec 2012 #145
LOL. No. The second amendment grants NO authority what so ever. beevul Dec 2012 #125
what logic? farminator3000 Dec 2012 #47
There was none. former9thward Dec 2012 #51
you are correct. your question was not logical farminator3000 Dec 2012 #64
Is it inconsistent, though? theKed Dec 2012 #124
Not sure I follow. former9thward Dec 2012 #131
My point was theKed Dec 2012 #140
Fine. former9thward Dec 2012 #148
Goal post moving bongbong Dec 2012 #154
It likely is theKed Dec 2012 #160
Did you respond to the right post? bongbong Dec 2012 #163
Juvenile name calling. former9thward Dec 2012 #165
BWAHAHAHA bongbong Dec 2012 #168
How many people have cars killed shintao Dec 2012 #60
Yes sellitman Dec 2012 #155
Stop With The Cars otohara Dec 2012 #182
Why should the first, it never was that limited. A Simple Game Dec 2012 #39
Never that limited? former9thward Dec 2012 #41
limit yourself, please farminator3000 Dec 2012 #57
A third post with sentence framents. former9thward Dec 2012 #58
Well good for Lawrence Tribe. We could get into a quote war but A Simple Game Dec 2012 #75
This was the quote I replied to: former9thward Dec 2012 #107
nice farminator3000 Dec 2012 #54
who the hell mentioned the 1st amendment? farminator3000 Dec 2012 #46
So you are equating the right to call someone an asshole SomethingFishy Dec 2012 #61
well said farminator3000 Dec 2012 #87
I am not a lunatic. former9thward Dec 2012 #187
The First Amendment is limited all the time by the government. TSBprm6 Dec 2012 #181
hey! farminator3000 Dec 2012 #40
LOL! No problem I have been enjoying the discussion. 4bucksagallon Dec 2012 #98
shrill is not the word farminator3000 Dec 2012 #99
Most of my guns are registered except for the one's that I bought before registration was required.. 4bucksagallon Dec 2012 #100
Post removed Post removed Dec 2012 #101
Give? Abq_Sarah Dec 2012 #133
There is a fundamental misunderstanding in some people's heads about rights.. X_Digger Dec 2012 #161
no, just in yours farminator3000 Dec 2012 #162
Still sore that you flubbed the laws about licensing and concealed carry? Hehe X_Digger Dec 2012 #167
not sore in the least. i have stuffed your BS like 2 dozen times now give up farminator3000 Dec 2012 #192
When someone claims that *any* right is unlimited, you be sure to pipe up, ya? X_Digger Dec 2012 #194
A majority of today's arms, like handguns or "assault weapons" are "in common use, for lawful purpos farminator3000 Dec 2012 #195
A majority of "assault weapons" aren't used to "assault" anyone. Duh. X_Digger Dec 2012 #196
piss off farminator3000 Dec 2012 #197
numbers, slappy, let's see some numbers farminator3000 Dec 2012 #199
FBI's UCR + DOJ report on the effectiveness of the ban.. X_Digger Dec 2012 #200
what the hell does that have to do with ANYTHING? farminator3000 Dec 2012 #204
In common use -- selling like hotcakes.. for lawful purposes -- not used in crime very much. X_Digger Dec 2012 #207
ever hear of life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness? what'd ya miss 2nd grade? farminator3000 Dec 2012 #198
Weak sauce, even for you. "commies"?!? LOL! X_Digger Dec 2012 #201
my claim is you are full of crap! farminator3000 Dec 2012 #202
Then back up your claims with data.. such as my response above. X_Digger Dec 2012 #203
you are the data, i claim you a fool! farminator3000 Dec 2012 #205
My goodness, maybe you should switch to decaf. n/t X_Digger Dec 2012 #208
You found one of the rabid NRA-ers here on DU bongbong Dec 2012 #218
you think "assault weapons" are cool, in some kind of perverse, pseudo rambo way. i do not farminator3000 Dec 2012 #206
Nobody ever *gave* me a right to do or have anything- they predate the constitution. X_Digger Dec 2012 #209
so you aren't a member of society or a citizen of the US. that is good news! farminator3000 Dec 2012 #210
When you're in a hole, the first tip is to stop digging. X_Digger Dec 2012 #212
dig this farminator3000 Dec 2012 #213
So? It's an accurate statement. friendly_iconoclast Dec 2012 #215
... and? Are you just into repetition now? n/t X_Digger Dec 2012 #217
A few hundred years ago, the term "right to bear arms" meant the right to carry your family ladjf Dec 2012 #6
but now the family all has the same coat farminator3000 Dec 2012 #8
I presume that "black and shiny" is a gun. ladjf Dec 2012 #31
yes farminator3000 Dec 2012 #38
No. nt ladjf Dec 2012 #93
a song about a school shooting in 1979 farminator3000 Dec 2012 #94
and now... farminator3000 Dec 2012 #7
Mmmmm, Burger Capt. Obvious Dec 2012 #9
awfully quiet in this thread farminator3000 Dec 2012 #10
Are you going to agree with Burger's decisons? former9thward Dec 2012 #13
I have no idea what you are even talking about. His quote is not cherry picked in any way. duffyduff Dec 2012 #16
Non-responsive to my questions. former9thward Dec 2012 #18
i said farminator3000 Dec 2012 #43
It certainly *was* cherry-picked. Read his homophobic screed in Bowers v. Hardwick: friendly_iconoclast Dec 2012 #19
it wasn't a decision farminator3000 Dec 2012 #44
*You* offered him up as an authority figure, whose opinion we should take note of. friendly_iconoclast Dec 2012 #67
nope. i showed a quote and implied that i agree. farminator3000 Dec 2012 #70
"george bush the 1st cut up is nra card, too. you should, too." Wow, you really *are* new here... friendly_iconoclast Dec 2012 #86
Just look at Burger's own words from your referenced source: AnotherMcIntosh Dec 2012 #66
you read it! farminator3000 Dec 2012 #71
i didn't agree with anything. farminator3000 Dec 2012 #42
It is not going to be "fixed". former9thward Dec 2012 #48
are you in charge? farminator3000 Dec 2012 #59
No I am not in charge unfortunately. former9thward Dec 2012 #62
correct farminator3000 Dec 2012 #80
From your link... rrneck Dec 2012 #11
You admire Chief Justice Burger? hack89 Dec 2012 #15
The answer to that (if there *is* one) will be most interesting... friendly_iconoclast Dec 2012 #17
You can certainly be right about one topic, and wrong about another. Lex Dec 2012 #20
He is consistent on restraining civil liberties hack89 Dec 2012 #21
Like these? Lex Dec 2012 #22
Ok - so he is wildly inconsistent. nt hack89 Dec 2012 #23
If you've studied Constitutional Law you'd know that Lex Dec 2012 #26
what he/she said is very true! farminator3000 Dec 2012 #97
Yes, but if your argument is an "appeal to authority" argument hughee99 Dec 2012 #30
no. i agree with one opinion of his from an interview farminator3000 Dec 2012 #45
What an infantile statement... Marengo Dec 2012 #103
dissection- farminator3000 Dec 2012 #105
K&R Whovian Dec 2012 #63
Can we have a little honesty here? AnotherMcIntosh Dec 2012 #65
certainly! farminator3000 Dec 2012 #69
Who is saying ""Until that time (Heller), legal precedent and conventional wisdom held that the AnotherMcIntosh Dec 2012 #72
TWO sources enough? farminator3000 Dec 2012 #74
Oh, the same Burger who ruled that sodomy laws were constitutional? X_Digger Dec 2012 #73
i don't recall mentioning sodomy farminator3000 Dec 2012 #77
It demonstrates that he's not a fan of rights, generally. X_Digger Dec 2012 #79
not really. farminator3000 Dec 2012 #81
Go read some of his opinions if you get the chance.. X_Digger Dec 2012 #82
sorry if i offended you farminator3000 Dec 2012 #83
Nah, not offended.. tickled a bit, honestly. X_Digger Dec 2012 #84
so you are tickled by sodomy. great farminator3000 Dec 2012 #85
Tickled that you're quoting Burger, Nixon's appointee.. X_Digger Dec 2012 #88
so you are pro death penalty? farminator3000 Dec 2012 #89
Err.. no, I'm against it.. but your boy Burger? Is responsible for its reinstatement. X_Digger Dec 2012 #90
great. i'm for it, and i don't give a shit what Burger thinks about it. back to the question- farminator3000 Dec 2012 #91
Unintentional quote of the night.. X_Digger Dec 2012 #92
it was intentional! i don't care what you think about guns your info is 125 years old farminator3000 Dec 2012 #95
No right is unlimited. Not the first, the second, the fourth, the fifth.. X_Digger Dec 2012 #104
thanks for agreeing farminator3000 Dec 2012 #106
I read law dictionaries. There is a distinct difference between a privilege and a right. X_Digger Dec 2012 #108
what's the difference between a gun and a car? farminator3000 Dec 2012 #110
Generally, one has to be licensed to carry outside one's home.. X_Digger Dec 2012 #111
maybe generally is the problem farminator3000 Dec 2012 #112
License to own, not operate/carry.. did you miss that? X_Digger Dec 2012 #113
no. i said the gun laws are insane, look at the link farminator3000 Dec 2012 #114
You're babbling. X_Digger Dec 2012 #116
so far you got right/privilege AND car/gun AND license/permit WRONG! look here! farminator3000 Dec 2012 #117
Umm.. you do not need a permit to carry outside your home in Alaska, Arizona, Vermont, and Wyoming. X_Digger Dec 2012 #118
you need a clue farminator3000 Dec 2012 #120
If I do need a clue, I know who NOT to call. n/t X_Digger Dec 2012 #121
certainly don't look in the mirror.. farminator3000 Dec 2012 #123
Quoted for posterity. beevul Dec 2012 #126
you forgot a part of my quote there, slappy farminator3000 Dec 2012 #127
i would have quoted it, if... beevul Dec 2012 #128
quote this farminator3000 Dec 2012 #129
Ohhh the mulford act? beevul Dec 2012 #132
no, the 2ND AMENDMENT STOP WASTING MY TIME! farminator3000 Dec 2012 #149
I agree with Chief Justice Burger. I always underthematrix Dec 2012 #76
you are not wrong farminator3000 Dec 2012 #78
Is there any right that isn't limited by the extent to which it damages the rights of others? patrice Dec 2012 #102
the right to breathe? farminator3000 Dec 2012 #115
Alas, poor Burger put his money on the wrong horse. The States Rights interpretation lost big. hansberrym Dec 2012 #119
so will you farminator3000 Dec 2012 #122
Well that settles it, if Reagun thought it a good idea, then it must have been a good idea. n/t hansberrym Dec 2012 #135
maybe being shot gives you a more vivid look at why guns are bad? farminator3000 Dec 2012 #139
"weight of academic opinion" Major Nikon Dec 2012 #130
Just sayin that Posner lost 9-0 in the Supreme Court. hansberrym Dec 2012 #134
The government's case was a loser because the court was stacked with RW ideologues Major Nikon Dec 2012 #136
Who stacked the courts in the 1800s? hansberrym Dec 2012 #137
This message was self-deleted by its author Major Nikon Dec 2012 #142
YOU lost in the supreme court, Mr. Not-so-Smartypants! farminator3000 Dec 2012 #150
So you do remember your post #95, now all you have to do is locate that gun lobby hansberrym Dec 2012 #164
do you read? check post 147. you guys are shooting yourselves in the feet farminator3000 Dec 2012 #170
Can you read? None of what you have cut and pasted repeatedly hansberrym Dec 2012 #171
if you can't get it in three tries just give up farminator3000 Dec 2012 #173
Physician heal thyself. hansberrym Dec 2012 #174
take two minutes to read this, and don't come back. ever. farminator3000 Dec 2012 #176
You remembered again! While you're lucid, can you tell hansberrym Dec 2012 #179
yep farminator3000 Dec 2012 #180
"it doesn't. that is his view." Wow, I did catch you in a momoment of clarity, so hopefully hansberrym Dec 2012 #183
go away, you have lost 3 times already shut up you aren't even reading this you robot later dud farminator3000 Dec 2012 #184
What a pity the moment has passed, your thinking is once again clouded by your hatred of the NRA hansberrym Dec 2012 #185
what a pity your nasty boss embarassed us all in front of the entire world at the UN meeting farminator3000 Dec 2012 #186
Still no luck, eh? Guess you'll be needing more than 10 minutes afterall ... hansberrym Dec 2012 #188
you are a fool. why am i calling an actual robot a fool? i don't know,really farminator3000 Dec 2012 #190
Because you are unable to back your claims, foot stomping and foolishness are all you can offer. n/t hansberrym Dec 2012 #219
The OP is a straw man argument, itself knowingly propped up by the straw man left to us by Burger. hansberrym Dec 2012 #138
you become a straw man as soon as you type those words, and the gun lobby is sound asleep farminator3000 Dec 2012 #141
What sorcery is this? hansberrym Dec 2012 #143
the good kind. farminator3000 Dec 2012 #144
The lame kind is more like it. It has been quite a bit longer than 10 minutes, and still no hansberrym Dec 2012 #146
i have an actual job other than posting nonsense on the internet farminator3000 Dec 2012 #147
OIC, so when you are not posting nonsense on the internet, you are working... hansberrym Dec 2012 #151
it's better than having a job posting nonsense, I'd hazard a guess... farminator3000 Dec 2012 #153
How does any of those quotes support the notion that the gun lobby hansberrym Dec 2012 #166
are a-holes? well, board member the Nuge said so. period. farminator3000 Dec 2012 #172
Are you as good at the former as you are at the latter? N/T beevul Dec 2012 #157
BUZZ OFF BEEVUL! i'm better than you at BOTH! farminator3000 Dec 2012 #158
Clearly. N/T beevul Dec 2012 #159
The American Revolution Is A Living Process. CommonSense4CG.com Dec 2012 #152
and now it WILL be televised... farminator3000 Dec 2012 #156
The Music Man will be on TV, when? hansberrym Dec 2012 #169
did you edit that to NOT make sense? farminator3000 Dec 2012 #175
Yes, but frankly I am surprised that you noticed. n/t hansberrym Dec 2012 #177
you must really like this thread, thanks for all the input farminator3000 Dec 2012 #178
He's right. I think most people would ecstatic Dec 2012 #189
the fraud is only 35 years old, really... farminator3000 Dec 2012 #191
somewhere between 12-15 NRA drones taken out on this thread, i'd say farminator3000 Dec 2012 #193
hmmm stklurker Dec 2012 #211
where, exactly? and why should i even try to be polite? farminator3000 Dec 2012 #214
.... stklurker Dec 2012 #216
i said where slappy farminator3000 Dec 2012 #220
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