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In reply to the discussion: The Big Dog's Big Lie [View all]merrily
(45,251 posts)31. Deciding that DLC types are too far to the right sounds nothing like the RW echo chamber.
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production went up in terms of dollar value & flat in terms of total output. only jobs went down.
HiPointDem
Dec 2012
#219
That 'manufacturing was on its way out' before nafta? no, it wasn't on its way out. That was
HiPointDem
Dec 2012
#238
Manufacturing jobs were declining, basically because of productivity increases. And the US
HiPointDem
Dec 2012
#242
Nixon signed environmental legislation because he was a smart politician, yet a dreadful person
Kennah
Dec 2012
#233
looking at iron & steel production, it was already declining in the carter years. all-time high
HiPointDem
Dec 2012
#135
It was initially damaged by going to Cold War footing under, sorry to say, Truman. nt
patrice
Dec 2012
#176
It was during the Reagan administration that Congress discussed loosening trading precautions.
JDPriestly
Dec 2012
#230
You want his "definition of an actual Democrat"? At a minimum, it might be a person who is an
AnotherMcIntosh
Dec 2012
#103
Thank you very much. I addressed this in response to his second backhanded slap at me.....
George II
Dec 2012
#257
Yes. along with NAFTA... He was never a Good Democrat, IMO ---Strictly Third Way.
whathehell
Dec 2012
#126
If you don't count Blacks, who were initially excluded from Social Security
BlueCaliDem
Dec 2012
#97
"Did you ever ask yourself why Blacks registered as Republicans ..." It might have something to
AnotherMcIntosh
Dec 2012
#132
the republican talking points are strong here. but they're wrong. funny how people with 'one drop'
HiPointDem
Dec 2012
#213
And the Apologists are hard at work to excuse away inconvenient but salient points
BlueCaliDem
Dec 2012
#229
A professor says MLK "may have" had to register R in Alabama to vote "proves" MLK was an R?
HiPointDem
Dec 2012
#234
Which proves that IF MLK wanted to vote HE HAD TO BE REGISTERED AS A REPUBLICAN.
BlueCaliDem
Dec 2012
#244
the fact that some professor says he "may have had to" register as a republican in alabama
HiPointDem
Dec 2012
#246
'asian-americans' weren't put into internment camps, japanese-americans were. and not all japanese
HiPointDem
Dec 2012
#142
by 1940, blacks were already solidly democrat. because of fdr's policies. you need to read up.
HiPointDem
Dec 2012
#144
Black Democratic Presidential vote 1932 = 23%. Thereafter always above 60%, pub never over 40%.
HiPointDem
Dec 2012
#212
FDR was ranked by historians in 2009 as "Third Greatest" president in American history, preceded.
whathehell
Dec 2012
#128
i believe the auto companies & banks are already nationalized. & they'e not the only ones who've
HiPointDem
Dec 2012
#146
True, and they didn't go to Mexico as the naysayers thought..they went OUTSIDE N. America!
George II
Dec 2012
#78
No "naysayers" said that manufacturing jobs would only go to Mexico. They said it was a start.
AnotherMcIntosh
Dec 2012
#134
Whining about jobs going anywhere but Mexico and Canada and blaming NAFTA is crazy...
George II
Dec 2012
#203
I see you have the cojones to make wild-ass comments about people, but.......
George II
Dec 2012
#274
I don't have to use such language. Nor am I required to respond to anyone who uses such language.
AnotherMcIntosh
Dec 2012
#275
they didn't? you're sure about that? because some auto manufacturing jobs sure went there.
HiPointDem
Dec 2012
#149
If we are going to be "honest," people were concerned about job losses before NAFTA.
AnotherMcIntosh
Dec 2012
#105
i seem to recall big concerns about imported cars. to the extent of japanese kids being killed
HiPointDem
Dec 2012
#157
Deciding that DLC types are too far to the right sounds nothing like the RW echo chamber.
merrily
Dec 2012
#31
You don't want to have "ANOTHER post hidden by the DU jury"? Maybe it would help if you
AnotherMcIntosh
Dec 2012
#137
Paul Krugman supported NAFTA at the time, seeing it mostly as a Foreign Policy move.
KittyWampus
Dec 2012
#49
OK--then why don't you list all the bad things Dems have done throughout the years?
trumad
Dec 2012
#82
Clinton has never apologized for the Glass-Steagall repeal or for welfare reform
duffyduff
Dec 2012
#101
"We understand we have to tolerate some amount of that third way bullshit..."
R. Daneel Olivaw
Dec 2012
#111
Well said. But the most that you're going to get may be a contemptuous reply with obscenities,
AnotherMcIntosh
Dec 2012
#108
it's also a fact that gore, the other democratic contender, also supported it. so if you were
HiPointDem
Dec 2012
#167
You honestly have no idea what you are talking about. And boiling an issue down to stupid level
KittyWampus
Dec 2012
#71
I most certainly believe that even in the same party one can be right the other wrong
TheKentuckian
Jan 2013
#279
ROFL at "extreme left." And was Welfare Deform also OK because he was a D?
bread_and_roses
Dec 2012
#83
My point exactly -- criticizing Clinton (and Obama) for every move they make...
Buzz Clik
Dec 2012
#120
The hard left brought you woman's suffrage, unions, decent wages and a 5 day work week.
R. Daneel Olivaw
Dec 2012
#131
No, I won't. Be sure to ignore everything that the left has done for you.
R. Daneel Olivaw
Dec 2012
#220
If you are so righteous that you disparage the left, tell us if you dare, what issues
rhett o rick
Dec 2012
#197
Reportedly, Obama has referred to himself both as a blue dog and as a New Democrat.
merrily
Dec 2012
#35
Didn't jobs start leaving the country in the 80s? I am against NAFTA and GATT because they do not
jwirr
Dec 2012
#28
Yes I do remember them - lots of pollution killing kids just across the border. Disgraceful.
jwirr
Dec 2012
#42
It started on a smaller scale with Nixon after he signed the DISCs legislation and went to China.
AnotherMcIntosh
Dec 2012
#68
NAFTA was ceremonially signed in '92. Then was ratified by Congress, and went into force in '94.
AtheistCrusader
Dec 2012
#56
and clinton's congress passed it, and clinton signed it. truly a bipartisan affair. as are all the
HiPointDem
Dec 2012
#161
Absolutely right. Incidentally, the Repubs took over Congress in 1994 (after 50 years of Democratic
AnotherMcIntosh
Dec 2012
#88
Your discussion about Sam Walton's stores in 1962 and 1969 is irrelevant because his policy at that
AnotherMcIntosh
Dec 2012
#110
until he got exposed for buying foreign ones. 1992. was when they stopped using the slogan.
HiPointDem
Dec 2012
#171
It was his OPINION on the issue - I don't call people "liars" if their opinions don't pan out.
George II
Dec 2012
#258
The inevitable was only the inevitable because they bought into your false narrative...
Drunken Irishman
Dec 2012
#102
Nixon started the process in the early '70's by signing the DISC legislation and going to the
AnotherMcIntosh
Dec 2012
#93
Bill Clinton flew back to Arkansas in the middle of the 1992 New Hampshire primary
coalition_unwilling
Dec 2012
#86
Clinton and Gore had only environmental issues in Mexico left to them...
IthinkThereforeIAM
Dec 2012
#98
For successful politicians lying is an art not a moral/ethical question.
Tierra_y_Libertad
Dec 2012
#113
He and the rest of the party's leadership also worked with republicans to make
Egalitarian Thug
Dec 2012
#125
Nixon was the one. Nixon signed the DISC legislation. Nixon went to the Far East, including China,
AnotherMcIntosh
Dec 2012
#141
and it's the same people over and over with the same posts - worded slightly different each time
wyldwolf
Dec 2012
#193
It wasn't just NAFTA, it was DLC neo-Con ideology. EVERYTHING they did was for Corporate Profits,
harun
Dec 2012
#201
NAFTA gave the framework for what happened, but it could have worked,the idea was to export low....
marble falls
Dec 2012
#204
It was about this time in 2008 that I was becoming disgusted at DU for threads like this.
Buzz Clik
Dec 2012
#221
There you have it: the problem isn't NAFTA, "free trade", or even unemployment. It's the LEFT!
Romulox
Dec 2012
#260
True. Some people are too young to remember that. And some don't realize it,
Honeycombe8
Dec 2012
#261
One thing about getting older...I didn't realize people could just *pretend* the past away...
Romulox
Dec 2012
#278