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HereSince1628

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30. You could have answered first. But I'll ante up

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 05:26 PM

Dec 2012

No I don't I've stated repeatedly that adjudication by the court is what I believe in.

So, about my question

Do you think the rights of the mentally ill can be protected if the federal government comingles the names of convicted criminals with the names of people who are associated not with a court determination but rather a billing code for a mental diagnoses?

On edit: It puzzles me how people don't want to address what seems a reasonable concern. Maybe no one thinks the rights of those diagnosed with mental illness warrant reasonable concern.

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Can Extreme Gun Control Coexist with Equality Under the Law? [View all] TPaine7 Dec 2012 OP

It *can*, it just hasn't yet Recursion Dec 2012 #1

You can't walk into the NRA building or Congress with your gun! MightyMopar Dec 2012 #4

Sure you can (the NRA building, at least). They have a public shooting range. Recursion Dec 2012 #6

+1 HiPointDem Dec 2012 #24

Please define extreme gun control. n/t Sekhmets Daughter Dec 2012 #2

Gun control that is transparently hypocritical, that violates the Second Amendment TPaine7 Dec 2012 #66

So you don't think there should be any gun control? Sekhmets Daughter Dec 2012 #75

How does much of Europe, Oceania, Canada live in freedom without the 2nd amendment? MightyMopar Dec 2012 #3

This reads a lot like the Turner Diaries and loads of other paranoid Libertarian drivel. bettyellen Dec 2012 #5

It's true, but it has the wrong tone, so you hope it's ignored and truth is overridden? Ok. nt TPaine7 Dec 2012 #10

It isn't true. JDPriestly Dec 2012 #33

You read the 2nd Amendment the way Scalia reads the rest of the Constitution Bake Dec 2012 #64

Where is this talk of magazines coming from? The antecedent of "it" is clearly the statements TPaine7 Dec 2012 #68

Nice way to call the gun worshipper a racist... realgreen Dec 2012 #29

Maybe, it's an imortant question not just to gun owners but the mentally ill HereSince1628 Dec 2012 #7

So you wrote Obama a letter with links to WorldNetDaily and reason.com and David Kopel? DanTex Dec 2012 #8

Point out the factual errors (like I pointed out your bald-faced personal lie about me) and we can TPaine7 Dec 2012 #9

You haven't even attempted to make a factual argument. DanTex Dec 2012 #11

It's an opinion piece that quotes statements of fact. Look up "fact" then get back to me. TPaine7 Dec 2012 #16

An opinion piece that selectively reports facts and omits others to arrive at right-wing conclusions DanTex Dec 2012 #21

Thanks for your tacit admission that everything I said was true, despite your sourcing diversion nt TPaine7 Dec 2012 #23

LOL. Nice one. DanTex Dec 2012 #27

I love a dose of right wing libertarian none sense in the morning. nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #12

I would say I love tripe from people who substitute labels for reasoning while dodging substance, TPaine7 Dec 2012 #14

Word net daily nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #15

The link is gone, the source is gone, the truth is still there. nt TPaine7 Dec 2012 #20

Your paranoid truth that is nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #22

Why is it that when the subject has anything to do with guns so many people can't seem to TPaine7 Dec 2012 #47

Have fun...the reception nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #48

There is a kernal of truth in this though Mojorabbit Dec 2012 #59

A total ban would only pass after a civil war nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #61

I don't think you comprehended what I was saying Mojorabbit Dec 2012 #62

And those of us living in reality, not the OP incidentally, nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #63

It was part of MY discussion within the thread. I am totally understanding it. Mojorabbit Dec 2012 #65

Why won't you answer any of my questions? Sekhmets Daughter Dec 2012 #45

Because I went to a Christmas event. Is that OK? TPaine7 Dec 2012 #69

Yes! Have a wonderful Christmas. Sekhmets Daughter Dec 2012 #76

Just curious...do you think the mentally ill can preserve their rights HereSince1628 Dec 2012 #18

Just curious nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #25

You could have answered first. But I'll ante up HereSince1628 Dec 2012 #30

You sure realize nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #35

No I don't think you are the NRA. But the mentally ill have a stake, they have rights, too. HereSince1628 Dec 2012 #36

You are talking of the universe nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #39

NO. I AM TRYING TO DRAW ATTENTION to the rights of the vast majority of the mentally ill HereSince1628 Dec 2012 #40

So let me get this straight nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #42

I think you are avoiding, you still haven't answered my question HereSince1628 Dec 2012 #44

I have told you who is not currently allowed nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #46

You seem to disbelieve what the actuarial data about mental illness HereSince1628 Dec 2012 #49

And the numbers who are in the database nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #50

Jeebus...The issue is the push to ADD people to NCIS based on searching med records HereSince1628 Dec 2012 #53

Yes, to add those who rightfully should be nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #55

And you think ANY one with an SSRI script in their records should be added HereSince1628 Dec 2012 #56

That is not what serious people are talking about nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #58

Just because you let fear completely rule your life doesn't mean you have the right DisgustipatedinCA Dec 2012 #13

You have no idea what you're talking about. TPaine7 Dec 2012 #17

Yep, he shits all over DU with this RW Libertarian govt hating extremism. Repulsive. bettyellen Dec 2012 #34

Huh? ibegurpard Dec 2012 #19

yes samsingh Dec 2012 #26

Please read this and then consider more gun control riverbendviewgal Dec 2012 #28

I am interested how this will play out int he midterms Mojorabbit Dec 2012 #60

Wrong question, IMHO. OldEurope Dec 2012 #31

x2. Detailed OP and cited sources are worth reading. AnotherMcIntosh Dec 2012 #32

No, they are not. Ikonoklast Dec 2012 #57

Tl;dr exists for a reason. Warren Stupidity Dec 2012 #77

This is nonsensical drivel Spider Jerusalem Dec 2012 #37

I agree. Post 37 was nonsensical drivel. TPaine7 Dec 2012 #70

Wrong and wrong Spider Jerusalem Dec 2012 #71

Yes, your post 71 is wrong. And wrong. TPaine7 Dec 2012 #73

Still wrong Spider Jerusalem Dec 2012 #74

First of all your thread title and whole premise for this thread is bullshit, as has been pointed madinmaryland Dec 2012 #38

Yes. This has been another edition of simple answers for simpleton questions. nt Pholus Dec 2012 #41

What a monstrosity of special pleading, straw men and false equivalence intaglio Dec 2012 #43

Oh wait, you were serious. Let me laugh even harder. Prometheus_unbound Dec 2012 #51

Can mass slaughter coexist KT2000 Dec 2012 #52

OMG -- are you serious?! Guns have seriously warped you - please get help. MotherPetrie Dec 2012 #54

Was this your thesis at Glenn Beck U.? WinkyDink Dec 2012 #67

Oh goody. 99Forever Dec 2012 #72