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Response to Chico Man (Reply #88)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 03:57 PM

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would not fall under the heading of "Gun Control", because, once again!, guns and Dodge Chargers are not the same thing, therefore their uses are not as similar as some people want us to think.

You don't handle a Dodge Charger carrying explosives the same way you would handle any one of a wide variety of guns. Access to explosives & their use is not as easy as ammunition. People with the ability to use guns are FAR more common than people who will drive your Dodge Charger on the mission you describe.

And if you're telling me that you, and those like you, neeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeed your gun in case you come across a Dodge Charger carrying explosives being driven into a school bus, I could live with that if the firepower you are trying to claim was not so inappropriate to the task. Assault weapons are for organized combat professionals to use in defense of the people's collective known as the state. And I personally do not find your non-assault weaponry all that problematic as long as my choices in regards to YOUR choice are respected by OPEN CARRY.

Concealed Carry mixes the "the good guys" with the bad guys and prevents me, and those like me, from having our rights to choose our associations, with either one of you "good" or bad, respected. You get your "right" to concealed carry & I don't get my right of free association, because I am kept in the dark by Concealed Carry.

Go ahead, buy a gun to protect us from Dodge Chargers carrying explosives, all that I ask is that the weapon you choose not create the possibilities of threatening circumstances to others. That means: #1. No assault weapons, because if you get to use your assault weapon for the purpose for which it exists and why you bought it in the first place, THAT's a situation in which a lot of people who had no chance whatsoever to make free decisions about actions and consequences, and that IS people all across this country when we're talking about the use of assault weapons, those people are DENIED their choices by you and your assault weapons. They suffer consequences, direct or otherwise, from YOUR BEHAVIORS that YOU did not allow them to choose. IOW, you fucked their rights for a PRIVILEGE that you did not earn. & 2. Non-assault weapons are okay as along as, once again, my, and those like me/our, FREE decisions about the fact that you or anyone else is carrying weapons are respected by means of OPEN CARRY. If I had my way, if you came into a mall in which I happened to be present, I would not consider it the slightest violation of your rights to carry that weapon, in fact I would consider it great respect for your right to carry, great augmentation of the 2nd Amendment, for your to enter that mall, in which I happen to be present, carrying your weapon extended above your head, so I can see you down the mall concourse and be allowed by FREE RIGHT as an American to make my OWN decisions and choices about that fact.

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