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JohnnyRingo

(18,580 posts)
20. This is just crazy
Mon Dec 24, 2012, 01:12 PM
Dec 2012

I don't know if we're seeing copycat shooters or if the whole country is driving off the mental and the fiscal cliff at the same time, but we have to find out why- as a nation- unprovoked shootings are becoming epidemic.

It doesn't matter to me that it was an assault rifle- any gun is equally suitable when taking potshots at firemen, but there has to be a reason for the relatively sharp increase in random shootings. Though I'm often sharply criticized here for owning a couple pistols, I don't object to a ban on assault rifle production and common sense regulations with federal background checks. It won't affect me. I also agree that flea markets without paper trails are no place to purchase a gun. I imagine most, if not all, reputable brick & morter gun dealers agree.

I think it would be a good idea to refund the mental institutes closed under the Reagan administration. Their position at the time was that "we have prisons for that", but unfortunately that means a psycho has to commit a crime before we warehouse them in a prison. By then, it's too late.

At least we used to know where these disturbed individuals were, and they were kept away from sharp objects and firearms. Many could eventually be returned to society after their problems were sorted out. It's hard to argue that today's shooter was in any way mentally balanced, but why are we seeing a recent increase in such incidents?

Rec'd, because the LaPierre chorus will be sung... Cooley Hurd Dec 2012 #1
2nd Amendment Freedumb JaneyVee Dec 2012 #2
I just read 2 firefighters have died. Is that true? proud2BlibKansan Dec 2012 #3
I read two died, hopefully one is the shooter. bettyellen Dec 2012 #5
4 shot. 2 firefighters dead. Terrible. JaneyVee Dec 2012 #7
If only... 99Forever Dec 2012 #4
Hey, in addition to the heavy gear firefighters already wear AllyCat Dec 2012 #8
Sure would, but ... 99Forever Dec 2012 #10
Like that'll work really well, when the heat of the fire set off the ammo. RC Dec 2012 #21
Just what I was thinking-- Jackpine Radical Dec 2012 #52
Did I really need to put one of these... 99Forever Dec 2012 #53
good grief ShadesOfBlue Dec 2012 #6
Yes, yes it does. WorseBeforeBetter Dec 2012 #26
Most State Fire Marshal's in the country are armed. tradecenter Dec 2012 #9
Yeah. Because GAWD FORBID we crack down on the gun owner side of kestrel91316 Dec 2012 #43
Has nothing to do with it. tradecenter Dec 2012 #48
These were volunteer fire fighters RetroLounge Dec 2012 #55
Why are you calling me a gun apologist? tradecenter Dec 2012 #62
and how many State Fire Marshalls were on scene? RetroLounge Dec 2012 #63
Some one said that maybe firefighters should be armed tradecenter Dec 2012 #64
Yeah, it's Christmas Eve. Zoeisright Dec 2012 #69
I really feel sorry for you. tradecenter Dec 2012 #70
Our local township fire department combined with our police so all of our firefighters are also Purveyor Dec 2012 #11
So if I want to rob a bank, I should start a fire on the other side of town first? n/t A Simple Game Dec 2012 #29
Disgusting - Repeal The 2nd Amendment Now - Outlaw All Firearms cantbeserious Dec 2012 #12
have they found the shooter? warrior1 Dec 2012 #13
One of firefighters was also a cop Lokey Dec 2012 #14
This is now my official "Put a Fork In Me" thread.... Pachamama Dec 2012 #15
On a serious note nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #16
Who pays for this body armor. riverbendviewgal Dec 2012 #22
I dd nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #24
You are a true hero zappaman Dec 2012 #60
It was 5:30 am in the morning. - dark out riverbendviewgal Dec 2012 #17
Yes nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #19
One. More. Time. ~ No citizen should own an assault rifle. In_The_Wind Dec 2012 #18
This is just crazy JohnnyRingo Dec 2012 #20
Depression often gets worse during the holidays. Many people reach their tipping point. n/t A Simple Game Dec 2012 #31
high capacity clips significantly change the equation. grantcart Dec 2012 #34
That's quite true to a point. JohnnyRingo Dec 2012 #57
All of the above and Fox News has whipped 30-some percent of the population beac Dec 2012 #41
You make a good point JohnnyRingo Dec 2012 #49
Responsible journalism is hugely important. toby jo Dec 2012 #68
How about an ownership limit of 1 rifle and 1 handgun per citizen. AAO Dec 2012 #54
Most, if not all, of these shootings are not by gun collectors though. JohnnyRingo Dec 2012 #59
The problem with all this mental health business is that it all happens after the fact AAO Dec 2012 #67
Just keep telling yourself: mental health registries and video games, mental health registries and Chorophyll Dec 2012 #23
well Cosmocat Dec 2012 #36
It's pretty damn bad when.... ReRe Dec 2012 #25
I do have to wonder about the gun nuts tipping point. morningfog Dec 2012 #27
"P.S. It was an assault rifle." mzmolly Dec 2012 #28
Well, after the Wisconsin Sikh temple shooting we obviously have to arm aint_no_life_nowhere Dec 2012 #30
Merry Christmas, NRA Joey Liberal Dec 2012 #32
Fuck The NRA. Ikonoklast Dec 2012 #66
People kill firefighters, not guns silly. sellitman Dec 2012 #33
What's your rationale for shooting at firefighters? WhoIsNumberNone Dec 2012 #35
Firemen/EMT's and elementary school kids all gotta die workinclasszero Dec 2012 #37
I posted the same basic thing on the LBN thread underpants Dec 2012 #38
The NRA has issued a statement Thav Dec 2012 #39
random act of evil. but not random at all i am sure. pansypoo53219 Dec 2012 #40
Ya know,...If you stop to think about it,... Spitfire of ATJ Dec 2012 #42
They died to protect the Second Amendment. Dems to Win Dec 2012 #44
"We have to arm the firefighters!!" SoapBox Dec 2012 #45
The gunners are afraid... sanatanadharma Dec 2012 #46
Is it USA now a failed state? Throckmorton Dec 2012 #47
already said it - use tanks instead of fire trucks NewJeffCT Dec 2012 #50
armed guards at every house fire d_b Dec 2012 #51
The gun humpers aren't here in this thread yet RetroLounge Dec 2012 #56
Kevlar burkas for all! All the time, everywhere! Dems to Win Dec 2012 #58
The elephant in the room DonCoquixote Dec 2012 #61
Which "well regulated Militia" did this murderer belong to? eyewall Dec 2012 #65
And their were cops with them. You know, good guys with guns. Lady Freedom Returns Dec 2012 #71
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