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Nikia

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100. Except few of those murdered are small children
Sun Dec 23, 2012, 07:50 PM
Dec 2012

Most of the murdered are adults and teenagers. Many of the teenagers that are murdered are not so innocent in that they are involved in crime. That is not to say that the teenagers deserved to die but they were involved in activities that put them at an increased chance of being murdered and make other people less sympathetic towards them.
Having security and police in schools has been effective in preventing murders, less severe violence, and criminal activity in general. Teachers and most students feel safer because they are safer. Many of the murders engage in other illegal activity so obtaining illegal guns wouldn't be much of an issue.
Gang violence is an issue, but everyone knows that gangs are dangerous and that it is safer to not get involved in them. It may be in some neighborhoods that young people are pressured to join gangs, even to the point that their life is at stake. Sometimes, innocent bystanders do get killed as well. There are some groups working to address that issue, but I don't know if there is an easy answer.

there is no denying that blonde, blue-eyed children bring more publicity Skittles Dec 2012 #1
Yes, obviously. Here is the pecking order BlueStreak Dec 2012 #91
No, I think it has more to do with Lionessa Dec 2012 #2
this was before the internet and all the 24 hour news channels JI7 Dec 2012 #3
Of course! tblue Dec 2012 #4
GMTA! I totally agree............. TheDebbieDee Dec 2012 #106
Milk this tragedy? Bake Dec 2012 #127
Yes and No Sherman A1 Dec 2012 #5
Race probably does have something to do with it but there are other factors even more important Fumesucker Dec 2012 #6
I remember very clearly the Stockton coverage exboyfil Dec 2012 #7
The Atlanta child murders received so much... Ivywoods55 Dec 2012 #75
A black serial killer preying on blacks? Snoozefest. Quantess Dec 2012 #89
The killer's race/identity was unknown until he was, you know, caught. WinkyDink Dec 2012 #116
Are you arguing that anyone cared before then? Quantess Dec 2012 #121
I don't remember even wondering about the race of the killer Thirties Child Dec 2012 #126
1989 vs 2012 qanda Dec 2012 #8
This Egnever Dec 2012 #112
It is because there were so many and they were so young. n/t pnwmom Dec 2012 #9
If twenty kids at an all-black orphanage for troubled children were shot... Posteritatis Dec 2012 #10
White and rich is certainly a factor, but the usual daily death toll, though bigger, is spread out Egalitarian Thug Dec 2012 #11
Disgusting OP. How about that IT WAS THE WORST MASS SHOOTING? Do you NOT remember ATLANTA? WinkyDink Dec 2012 #12
It wasn't the worst mass shooting. and even if it were, there had already been a "worst mass HiPointDem Dec 2012 #15
So what is the OP's point, exactly? Only white people make the news? WinkyDink Dec 2012 #119
This. And, I remember the worldwide horror at young girls killed in Birmingham church… txwhitedove Dec 2012 #17
Yes - the church bombing was shocking. RoverSuswade Dec 2012 #131
Virginia Tech is the worst mass school shooting obamanut2012 Dec 2012 #18
Fine. It isn't exactly like Va. Tech went under the radar. The OP is STILL VILE. WinkyDink Dec 2012 #118
No. Let's see, yesterday an op complaining that the MSM isn't covering Newtown cali Dec 2012 #13
No. It's because they were six and seven years old. MrSlayer Dec 2012 #14
and a week (give or take) before Christmas. FSogol Dec 2012 #20
To be honest it's really hard to tell if this incident brings more coverage lunatica Dec 2012 #16
No, and this is offensive, race-baiting garbage. Shame on you (nt) Nye Bevan Dec 2012 #19
+1 n/t FSogol Dec 2012 #21
+1 Buzz Clik Dec 2012 #36
Bullshit Cal Carpenter Dec 2012 #62
You're right...it's a sickening OP joeybee12 Dec 2012 #63
it is what it is Mr Dixon Dec 2012 #22
It is because they were little children. Justice Dec 2012 #23
It's probably a mix of factors gollygee Dec 2012 #24
They are making news because they are dead. Skidmore Dec 2012 #25
1... Coyote_Tan Dec 2012 #26
Thanks for the early morning dehumanization BeyondGeography Dec 2012 #27
Please don't go there....kids are kids, regardless of race. Please delete this thread. nt. OldDem2012 Dec 2012 #28
Not exactly union_maid Dec 2012 #29
Good Morning Union_Maid. Ivywoods55 Dec 2012 #34
I agree with this post... Ivywoods55 Dec 2012 #30
Agreed Mr Dixon Dec 2012 #33
More than 20 children killed in Chicago every day? And no one cares? Buzz Clik Dec 2012 #37
Go read a Chicago paper...become informed. Ivywoods55 Dec 2012 #68
"That many and more are killed in Chicago every day". 20 kids are murdered in Chicago every day? Nye Bevan Dec 2012 #38
Go read a paper...let I said go do some research.... Ivywoods55 Dec 2012 #69
Too Convenient ProfessorGAC Dec 2012 #124
I did not make anything up and even if one child... Ivywoods55 Dec 2012 #133
You're right, but are those kids in Chicago gunned down inside of their classrooms.. I think that's rainlillie Dec 2012 #46
Then my question would be... Ivywoods55 Dec 2012 #70
No it's not. Actually I would have agreed with you a few weeks ago. vaberella Dec 2012 #74
Bringing race into something like this is bad enough ... Lurker Deluxe Dec 2012 #51
And I ask why does "how many" died matter if... Ivywoods55 Dec 2012 #71
Except few of those murdered are small children Nikia Dec 2012 #100
You are wrong, and signifying about these children... Ivywoods55 Dec 2012 #109
I never said that most minority youth were in gangs Nikia Dec 2012 #120
Acting as if race has NOTHING to do with it relative to the facts is a conservative way of approachi uponit7771 Dec 2012 #81
The Eminem theory Recursion Dec 2012 #31
Maybe if you had spent a little more time searching Confusious Dec 2012 #32
Ah, race baiting. Where would DU be without someone churning the mud. Buzz Clik Dec 2012 #35
Yeah, because Trayvon Martin was blue-eyed and blonde. Nye Bevan Dec 2012 #39
They did ignore him until activist got involved!! You prove the OPs point in this post alone uponit7771 Dec 2012 #82
The Trayvon Martin case didn't get attention until African American activist got involved.. People rainlillie Dec 2012 #47
BULLSHIT! Sharpton and Jackson became involved BECAUSE it was getting attention. Buzz Clik Dec 2012 #56
If it weren't for his family contacting Al and others the story would NOT have gone national rainlillie Dec 2012 #57
Thank God for Revs. Jackson and Sharpton for raising my awareness. Buzz Clik Dec 2012 #60
Cool beans! rainlillie Dec 2012 #61
Your sarcasm is sad...because you know the real truth... Ivywoods55 Dec 2012 #72
Yep. GoCubsGo Dec 2012 #83
It did prepare the ground for other reactions to shooting Bad Thoughts Dec 2012 #66
Nope, it's because it hit to close to home for members of the news media tularetom Dec 2012 #40
I have been thinking the same thing Puzzledtraveller Dec 2012 #44
+1 uponit7771 Dec 2012 #84
Good point. But class and race are strongly correlated. BlueStreak Dec 2012 #92
Seems I had read before about the media bias to select white victims especially kidnap victims Puzzledtraveller Dec 2012 #41
you had to really work to make this theory even appear to fly. nt seabeyond Dec 2012 #42
This is why we need the unrec back. FSogol Dec 2012 #43
I never underestimate the racism within the MSM, that said.. rainlillie Dec 2012 #45
I think a big part of it is their age. With Columbine and other school shooters, they were older, Brickbat Dec 2012 #48
No. I think it's their age. If a mass school shooting happened in New Haven, Bridgeport or Hartford Jennicut Dec 2012 #49
i think it's mostly because they are dead. spanone Dec 2012 #50
It's already bad enough! And you have to bring race into it and change the conversation? For shame! Auntie Bush Dec 2012 #52
That incident did make news, and cause gun control to occur, which subsequent incidents have not. So still_one Dec 2012 #55
Thank you, is everyone trying to give the NRA a way out by changing the topic. JohLast Dec 2012 #80
Do you think it might be that 20 6-7 year olds were shot 11 times each? budkin Dec 2012 #53
Gun Control California: Stockton School Shooting In 1989 Was Catalyst For Gun Control still_one Dec 2012 #54
I think it's the internet and the different ways it is used. Sunlei Dec 2012 #58
Possibly treestar Dec 2012 #59
your question doesn't seem like race baiting at all to me renate Dec 2012 #64
Thank you for reason and truth....all these things do matter... Ivywoods55 Dec 2012 #77
It is wrong to analyze a horrible tragedy in such a way. Comrade_McKenzie Dec 2012 #65
THANK YOU JohLast Dec 2012 #78
Its even worse to turn away from the facts and act as if they don't exist uponit7771 Dec 2012 #86
I really don't think so with respect to the amount of coverage. NCTraveler Dec 2012 #67
I've been saying that for days. Even some of the parents and neighbors subscribed to the racism. vaberella Dec 2012 #73
that is a natural reaction to shock. cali Dec 2012 #79
The initial reaction would have been the same, but Quantess Dec 2012 #85
uh, no you can't guarantee that. And you're wrong. History demonstrates that. cali Dec 2012 #90
25 years ago, mass shootings were not as common. Quantess Dec 2012 #96
Actually that is not a natural reaction. I would never ever ever say that. vaberella Dec 2012 #122
it certainly is a natural reaction. you are justwrong and furthermore cali Dec 2012 #129
No it's not a natural reaction. vaberella Dec 2012 #132
****EXACTLY***** "This doesn't happen here = we're different from those other places" uponit7771 Dec 2012 #87
I disagree cali Dec 2012 #93
How many people are interested in a serial killer who kills +/- 42 black women? Quantess Dec 2012 #76
Not even...what if it was White female. n/t vaberella Dec 2012 #123
I personally think white male victims would be even greater cause for a freak-out than white females Quantess Dec 2012 #125
no H2O Man Dec 2012 #88
No Denying Race is Part of the Issue-- Iggy Dec 2012 #94
I think a lot of this has to do with proximity to the nation press... WCGreen Dec 2012 #95
You've got it backwards, I think. This DOES deserve all the attention it's gotten. NYC Liberal Dec 2012 #97
Yes. n/t dogknob Dec 2012 #98
Only in part Tab Dec 2012 #99
As an African American I don't care if they were striped or polka dot underthematrix Dec 2012 #101
It's a combination of factors. DollarBillHines Dec 2012 #102
"Solid red"? Newtown is in a (D) US House district. alp227 Dec 2012 #110
Uhh... I was talking about Newtown, not the District DollarBillHines Dec 2012 #113
No and I think this is race baiting. MichiganVote Dec 2012 #103
I think it is the number and the ages that made it different life long demo Dec 2012 #104
Yes and No. Remember that back in 1989, there was really no internet and the flow of news was madinmaryland Dec 2012 #105
Age has more to do with it than race.... Mdterp01 Dec 2012 #107
Thinking About This Question WiffenPoof Dec 2012 #108
I don't know the answer to this and many other questions thucythucy Dec 2012 #111
Mostly white affluent community n/t doc03 Dec 2012 #114
WTF? Hello? Maybe it has something to do with 20 young children getting slaughtered Zorra Dec 2012 #115
uh, we didn't have social media and twenty-four hour news channels were just getting started in 1989 ibegurpard Dec 2012 #117
Is the Pope Catholic? nt valerief Dec 2012 #128
Not this time. agent46 Dec 2012 #130
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