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When the goofs show up here with a picture of a quill pen Loudly Dec 2012 #1
Ask 'em where the First A's qualifying clause is... CTyankee Dec 2012 #6
It's past time to put "well regulated" to good use neverforget Dec 2012 #2
Militia. pscot Dec 2012 #4
Regulated Beaverhausen Dec 2012 #12
Precisely Sherman A1 Dec 2012 #21
At the time the BOR was written, Jenoch Dec 2012 #111
And do we have well run? No. We have disastrously run. robinlynne Dec 2012 #113
We have the National Guard and . . . brush Dec 2012 #120
Why are you including automatics? Jenoch Dec 2012 #130
Take a look at these videos brush Dec 2012 #143
Implicit in "Well run" is a Sherman A1 Dec 2012 #117
Girandoni Air Rifle wercal Dec 2012 #3
??? Bozita Dec 2012 #5
Wiki: yewberry Dec 2012 #7
Lewis and Clark had an air rifle with them Progressive dog Dec 2012 #36
and here I thought the weapons of Anatoray in "Last Exile" were pure fantasy. MNBrewer Dec 2012 #47
There was also the puckle gun... beevul Dec 2012 #122
WTF. Fail again. 1500 strokes for 30 rounds! Lets replace all guns with it now!! Logical Dec 2012 #9
It's not so hard. Glassunion Dec 2012 #11
Serious question.... Logical Dec 2012 #57
I know that there are air rifles today Glassunion Dec 2012 #63
Wow, but I am curious why no one offers this. I am sure it would be popular. Logical Dec 2012 #69
It might be the shape of the round wercal Dec 2012 #72
Fairly common lumberjack_jeff Dec 2012 #105
There are some powerful air guns jberryhill Dec 2012 #106
Yeah, I'm sure by the 700th stroke the shooter would be tackled and handcuffed already. JaneyVee Dec 2012 #31
Right. And because this gun had so many problems.... Barack_America Dec 2012 #30
The Technology was there wercal Dec 2012 #67
The drafters of the second amendment were not armorers jberryhill Dec 2012 #78
The OP established what the FF knew about wercal Dec 2012 #86
You have not established they knew about this BB gun jberryhill Dec 2012 #115
Fine. You can have a paintball gun jberryhill Dec 2012 #56
Its lethal at 150 yards wercal Dec 2012 #68
Yah right... jberryhill Dec 2012 #71
Question wercal Dec 2012 #77
How many prisons were needed when gold was banned? jberryhill Dec 2012 #81
You didn't address the questiom at all wercal Dec 2012 #85
Lead paint and drugs are readily distinguishable. jberryhill Dec 2012 #88
Bad example wercal Dec 2012 #107
Then what are you worried about? jberryhill Dec 2012 #109
Yep..just like assault weapons became so rarified wercal Dec 2012 #123
"Rarefied"? jberryhill Dec 2012 #137
Still waiting for an answer on that shotgun jberryhill Dec 2012 #136
No the police took the shotgun wercal Dec 2012 #141
There is a great difference billh58 Dec 2012 #148
Irrelevant Spider Jerusalem Dec 2012 #65
How on earth is it irrelevant wercal Dec 2012 #70
Was it a weapon then in common military use? No. Spider Jerusalem Dec 2012 #76
I guess the fact it was used in a military at that time wercal Dec 2012 #80
Again that's pretty largely irrelevant Spider Jerusalem Dec 2012 #91
I've actually read the federalist papers on the subject... wercal Dec 2012 #135
Get this - you have to roll around on the ground between shots! jberryhill Dec 2012 #74
I guess you're right wercal Dec 2012 #83
WTF are you on about now? jberryhill Dec 2012 #87
Uh, no, they didn't live in a rapidly changing world Confusious Dec 2012 #110
You do realize that the 18th century wercal Dec 2012 #139
And historians dispute when that happened Confusious Dec 2012 #142
Please do yourself a favor and read a history book wercal Dec 2012 #144
You can go to Wikipedia or open any history book and find out what I said is true. Confusious Dec 2012 #145
I'm sure the irony of your last statement wercal Dec 2012 #146
There's no irony Confusious Dec 2012 #147
What else can I tell you wercal Dec 2012 #149
Saying "you seem to be stuck on internet searches and wikipedia" Confusious Dec 2012 #151
Gun Freak? wercal Dec 2012 #152
I am realistic enough to know that we cannot merely presume original intent, Confusious Dec 2012 #153
This is what people keep missing nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #8
I really am not sure if semiautomatic rifles would have changed their minds. HereSince1628 Dec 2012 #100
Reading the Federalists and Jefferson nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #116
I think you may be right. n/t HereSince1628 Dec 2012 #118
I have said that before hfojvt Dec 2012 #10
As an owner of a black powder rifle I can understand the bayonet thing newfie11 Dec 2012 #19
In contrast, 100 years later pscot Dec 2012 #40
It wasn't even about the guns -- it was that there was no standing army starroute Dec 2012 #13
This needs to be an OP. I'm getting tired of seeing the meaning of the 2nd Amendment being pacalo Dec 2012 #15
You should email Supreme Court Justices and tell they have it all wrong and misinterpreted it. OneTenthofOnePercent Dec 2012 #20
Okay, that's funny. pacalo Dec 2012 #23
Right .... because the supremes never get it wrong etherealtruth Dec 2012 #27
Four out of nine SCOTUS justices already agree. RomneyLies Dec 2012 #35
It's not as easy as you suggest. Jenoch Dec 2012 #132
Until tis court. Now it is regular practice. n/t RomneyLies Dec 2012 #133
You support the most rightwing court in 70 years? Warren Stupidity Dec 2012 #48
No, but theirs is the only opinion that technically matters. OneTenthofOnePercent Dec 2012 #50
And again, all it will take is one of the evil five to leave RomneyLies Dec 2012 #61
Really? You made an appeal to authority mocking the poster. Warren Stupidity Dec 2012 #95
Such a sage court Doctor_J Dec 2012 #62
They already know they have it wrong tkmorris Dec 2012 #156
well, the gun nuts claim they can protect from invasions/our government Doctor_J Dec 2012 #60
I am fied up with the cowards of today hiding behind the 2nd amendment Skittles Dec 2012 #14
YOU TELL 'EM, SKITTLES! pacalo Dec 2012 #16
Why do they never, EVER explain the part about the "well regulated militia"?... I guess it's because world wide wally Dec 2012 #17
They would be apalled and bewildered by today's weapons Liberal In Texas Dec 2012 #18
Damn... what kind of weapon light is that? OneTenthofOnePercent Dec 2012 #22
Some may want it for their rearview mirrors. pacalo Dec 2012 #24
huh? OneTenthofOnePercent Dec 2012 #25
You do realize that rifles that held muliple shots were available back then Travis_0004 Dec 2012 #26
So replace all guns with those, deal? JaneyVee Dec 2012 #32
Lol! NealK Dec 2012 #112
You do realize that the memorized rightwing rebuttals are just getting boring, right? Warren Stupidity Dec 2012 #49
If facts are boring, then I aplogize. Travis_0004 Dec 2012 #82
You do realize that it doesn't take very much to convert a semi-automatic weapon.... OldDem2012 Dec 2012 #54
Actually it does.. Mec9000 Dec 2012 #66
So installing a slide is an incredibly tough modification? RomneyLies Dec 2012 #73
It is still semi auto Mec9000 Dec 2012 #84
Yet it allows you to fire at nearly automatic rates of fire RomneyLies Dec 2012 #90
not really Mec9000 Dec 2012 #92
Yes, really. billh58 Dec 2012 #150
LOL!! Yeah, okay....whatever you say. nt. OldDem2012 Dec 2012 #104
Actually- needledriver Dec 2012 #28
Do you think the Founding Fathers were stupid? Taitertots Dec 2012 #29
They also thought blacks were 3/5ths of a person & women couldn't vote. JaneyVee Dec 2012 #33
Ah, so you are of a mind that the founding fathers were geniuses with perfect foresight RomneyLies Dec 2012 #39
Is your position is that the Founding Fathers didn't think firearms technology would advance? Taitertots Dec 2012 #43
Of course they knew it would advance RomneyLies Dec 2012 #45
The rate of advancement argument is non-sense Taitertots Dec 2012 #51
Your arguments are ludicrous RomneyLies Dec 2012 #52
Firearms technology hasn't Taitertots Dec 2012 #99
Firearms technology barely budged in the fifty years prior to the AWI. RomneyLies Dec 2012 #101
No, there were huge breakthroughs in firearms technology in the lives of the Founding Fathers Taitertots Dec 2012 #103
Your NRA talking point assertions that billh58 Dec 2012 #154
Wow, that's a whole basketball squad of strawmen... friendly_iconoclast Dec 2012 #155
Responding to the wrong post sorry Taitertots Dec 2012 #158
It is not good that you have ignored everything I've ever posted... Taitertots Dec 2012 #157
Your subject line is very true, billh58 Dec 2012 #159
Good, don't reply to my posts with idiotic bullshit. Taitertots Dec 2012 #160
And most people owned them, and how many used to them for killing people? The Straight Story Dec 2012 #34
Even less reason to let the new model 'Murkin pscot Dec 2012 #44
Top of the line current technology of the day. Why would they be required to own anything less? geckosfeet Dec 2012 #37
"The Last of the Mohicans".... Iggy Dec 2012 #38
What an utterly irrelevant comment to make. 1-Old-Man Dec 2012 #41
How long did it take to reload them? What range were they accurate to? DainBramaged Dec 2012 #42
You really believe Lanza could have slaughtered 22 kids and 5 adults pscot Dec 2012 #46
The rate of fire of a muzzle-loading musket and/or rifle at the time of the American Revolution.... OldDem2012 Dec 2012 #58
When drug gangs, rapists, home invasion thugs guardian Dec 2012 #53
Home invasions happen a lot in your 'hood? GoneOffShore Dec 2012 #55
The "stupid musket argument" is exactly the context of the world in which the.... OldDem2012 Dec 2012 #59
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHH@!!! Zoeisright Dec 2012 #121
if a gun is my "little penis substitute" guardian Dec 2012 #131
”Never trust a government that doesn’t trust its own citizens with guns.” ~ Benjamin Franklin. -..__... Dec 2012 #64
"We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid. ~ Benjamin Franklin RomneyLies Dec 2012 #75
+100 RetroLounge Dec 2012 #114
I'd rather trust the government than be forced to trust idiot neighbors like Nancy Lanza. Dems to Win Dec 2012 #119
Awesome post Berserker Dec 2012 #138
If you wanted to fire 30 rounds in a short period of time you needed 30 men with muskets. yellowcanine Dec 2012 #79
It's winter Berserker Dec 2012 #140
More examples of privately owned arms. Egalitarian Thug Dec 2012 #89
I don't think that a field gun would have commonly been privately owned in the 18th century. Spider Jerusalem Dec 2012 #93
You might not think it, but they were, and they were part of the reason for the 2nd. Egalitarian Thug Dec 2012 #94
Well, no, they weren't Spider Jerusalem Dec 2012 #96
But that is not the point, now is it? This thread and my reply are about the 18th - 19th century. Egalitarian Thug Dec 2012 #97
And again it's pretty largely irrelevant to the context of the 2nd Spider Jerusalem Dec 2012 #98
Well first, you're just wrong about ownership of artillery by colonists. The Continental Congress Egalitarian Thug Dec 2012 #102
No, actually, I'm not wrong Spider Jerusalem Dec 2012 #108
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Do you want citations? because I can provide those. Spider Jerusalem Dec 2012 #125
Because I just knew you don't have anything to do but sit here waiting for someone to Egalitarian Thug Dec 2012 #127
Post removed Post removed Dec 2012 #134
I'll be back tomorrow to hear your next batch of dung. n/t Egalitarian Thug Dec 2012 #128
This is what free speech looked like when the 1st Amendment was written Recursion Dec 2012 #126
THIS is what our "original intent" SCOTUS said the 1st Amendment has ALWAYS meant ... Bozita Dec 2012 #129
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