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HereSince1628

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7. No, but there seems to be some movement to narrow the Fourteenth
Sat Dec 22, 2012, 03:02 PM
Dec 2012

with respect to due process for the mentally ill.

If it was, who would be the only people with guns ? orpupilofnature57 Dec 2012 #1
The same people who have them now Major Nikon Dec 2012 #16
Driving a car is a Privilege, owning a gun Should be the same,,,,Now . orpupilofnature57 Dec 2012 #18
It already is Major Nikon Dec 2012 #21
I agree entirely... CTyankee Dec 2012 #64
guns are not meant to overthrow governments in coup'd'etats. Tea party wants anarchy graham4anything Dec 2012 #26
The Tea party wants Antebellum . orpupilofnature57 Dec 2012 #44
If 2A were repealed, RKBA would be protected as an unenumerated right by the Ninth Amendment. nt jody Dec 2012 #2
First time I've seen this mentioned. Interesting. dkf Dec 2012 #3
Heller dissent by Stevens recognized RKBA for self-defense by PA(1776) & VT(1777). Constitution does jody Dec 2012 #5
I didn't get that out of the dissent Major Nikon Dec 2012 #17
Perhaps you and I brought different backgrounds when we read Steven's dissent. jody Dec 2012 #20
Try it with this part highlighted... Major Nikon Dec 2012 #25
OK but Stevens closed the door when he acknowledged RKBA as a pre-existing right. If not 2A then 9A. jody Dec 2012 #32
If the 9A argument is as strong as you claim, why didn't Scalia make it? Major Nikon Dec 2012 #35
Because Scalia asked a different question "We consider whether a District of Columbia prohibition jody Dec 2012 #36
Scalia didn't pose the question, nor could he Major Nikon Dec 2012 #39
Regardless Stevens in dissent acknowledged RKBA for self-defense. If not 2A then 9a. nt jody Dec 2012 #40
Are you just repeating this from some gun nut site? Major Nikon Dec 2012 #42
Link to my post below the day Heller was released. Sorry you are not capable of understanding the jody Dec 2012 #48
You're confusing understanding with caring Major Nikon Dec 2012 #49
Stevens and Ginsburg IIRC both argued that Recursion Dec 2012 #58
There should be. It has to be started in each state, too. treestar Dec 2012 #4
And it would take only thirteen states to stop it in its tracks. friendly_iconoclast Dec 2012 #43
Before the states can vote on it, Jenoch Dec 2012 #57
True, so it's a tall order treestar Dec 2012 #61
See my post at the bottom of this thread. Jenoch Dec 2012 #63
silly H2O Man Dec 2012 #6
No, but there seems to be some movement to narrow the Fourteenth HereSince1628 Dec 2012 #7
Any group proposing to abolish an inalienable/unalienable right they hate, ignore unintended jody Dec 2012 #8
The 14th Amendment doesn't provide unalienable rights... HereSince1628 Dec 2012 #9
McDonald v Chicago, Second Amendment incorporated by the Due Process Clause of the Fourteenth jody Dec 2012 #10
I'm not a lawyer...so the language inalienable/unalienable is unfamiliar HereSince1628 Dec 2012 #11
I'm not a lawyer either. I understand and agree with your point. nt jody Dec 2012 #13
Not in my lifetime. ZombieMan Dec 2012 #12
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Zoeisright Dec 2012 #31
Man, we are really trying hard to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory, aren't we? NickB79 Dec 2012 #14
Spot on. All purple states would swing back red. banned from Kos Dec 2012 #47
National Don't Wanna Get Shot By A Rifle Association. Help collect 4 million signatures Dems to Win Dec 2012 #15
18 signatures so far. -..__... Dec 2012 #22
Which states Romney won are we looking at to ratify it? cthulu2016 Dec 2012 #19
It's quite easy. Obama44 and Hillary45 name 4-5 new justices who will do that w/Bloomberg financing graham4anything Dec 2012 #27
You think the NRA's membership and income will stay static NickB79 Dec 2012 #33
this is such convoluted logic. The louder one speaks, the quicker they are gone graham4anything Dec 2012 #41
I like your thinking here, graham... CTyankee Dec 2012 #65
Is it even possible to repeal an amendment in the Bill of Rights? Mister Ed Dec 2012 #23
Yes, anything in the Constitution can be ammended. cthulu2016 Dec 2012 #24
Anything can be amended Recursion Dec 2012 #59
Possible, yes. Realistically, not a snowball's chance in hell (and I don't mean a town in Michigan). Angleae Dec 2012 #66
I think it should be left as it is. sellitman Dec 2012 #28
Yeah, good luck with that. Quantess Dec 2012 #29
I think it needs re-defining Evergreen Emerald Dec 2012 #30
You don't need to repeal it duffyduff Dec 2012 #34
This message was self-deleted by its author davidn3600 Dec 2012 #37
If 2A were repealed, RKBA would be protected as an unenumerated right by the Ninth Amendment. nt jody Dec 2012 #38
Isn't it odd that the gunnies are now using a different amendment, ha ha ha ha graham4anything Dec 2012 #45
"Now using"? Where have you been? friendly_iconoclast Dec 2012 #50
Show me where on gun threads that was mentioned before this incident graham4anything Dec 2012 #52
Here you go, these are just the ones I could be arsed to find: friendly_iconoclast Dec 2012 #60
I thought we were talking about the 9th amendment and I thought only 1-10 are what graham4anything Dec 2012 #62
It's evident you thought wrongly, now isn't it? friendly_iconoclast Dec 2012 #72
See link below posted 27 June 2008 jody Dec 2012 #71
Exactly Major Nikon Dec 2012 #46
Then-Senator Obama said it referred to an individual right in 2008, before Heller was decided Recursion Dec 2012 #67
we need to insist that it be interpreted properly and accurately samsingh Dec 2012 #51
Only by people who are as bugnut crazy as the other end of the spectrum of this debate Android3.14 Dec 2012 #53
We need a new Consitution in general, this one has become too damaged MightyMopar Dec 2012 #55
Awesome post Berserker Dec 2012 #68
It was never a problem until a few years ago Jeff In Milwaukee Dec 2012 #54
Remember what happened in the 1994 elections over the AWB? Jenoch Dec 2012 #56
I see that going less far than the ERA. eom TransitJohn Dec 2012 #69
Nearly all state constitutions also guarantee gun rights Shrek Dec 2012 #70
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