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38. YUP ... this is about the 6th or 7th hair-on-fire session on this exact topic.

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Sat Dec 22, 2012, 10:58 AM

Dec 2012

Every 4 to 6 months here on DU ...

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President Obama's use of Social Security isn't 3D chess, poker or rope-a-dope [View all] WonderGrunion Dec 2012 OP

He didn't pull it away-- the GOP just couldn't get their shit together to kick it. Marr Dec 2012 #1

Tell me more about how President Obama is upsetting you WonderGrunion Dec 2012 #3

.. Cha Dec 2012 #6

lol!! JoePhilly Dec 2012 #33

Bingo! LOL!! nt. OldDem2012 Dec 2012 #36

That's your best response? Really? Marr Dec 2012 #59

That's because BlueCaliDem Dec 2012 #87

I've responded to a lot of these responses WonderGrunion Dec 2012 #94

or Dyedinthewoolliberal Dec 2012 #29

+1 forestpath Dec 2012 #31

Well said. AnotherMcIntosh Dec 2012 #55

Ironic, considering that GOP are a bunch of shit-kickers (cue rim shot :) - n/t coalition_unwilling Dec 2012 #68

I don't think so BainsBane Dec 2012 #2

I'm not sure it's still on the table. freedom fighter jh Dec 2012 #7

It was never on the table. Not really. WonderGrunion Dec 2012 #13

You say, "When the deal you offered gets rejected, you are no longer obligated to do everything you AnotherMcIntosh Dec 2012 #75

the accursed payroll tax cut should die hfojvt Dec 2012 #46

Don't you see how the payroll tax holiday customerserviceguy Dec 2012 #83

No, I don't BainsBane Dec 2012 #84

Sorry if that sounds like a standard GOP line to me customerserviceguy Dec 2012 #88

OMG BainsBane Dec 2012 #91

Well, here's some math customerserviceguy Dec 2012 #93

you make good points BainsBane Dec 2012 #95

I apologize for any offense taken customerserviceguy Dec 2012 #99

No problem BainsBane Dec 2012 #100

Eventually, we'll have to think about what to do about securing Social Security's finances. customerserviceguy Dec 2012 #102

This message was self-deleted by its author graham4anything Dec 2012 #4

Nice. So you guarantee that changed-CPI is 100% off the table! Nice! Luminous Animal Dec 2012 #5

Chained CPI was never on the table WonderGrunion Dec 2012 #10

Nothing like coming to a political discussion forum... Scootaloo Dec 2012 #14

Notice how they want you to prove Unicorns don't exist. JoePhilly Dec 2012 #37

and when 2016 arrives and no cuts... he still wanted them.. but they stopped him! by posting on DU. dionysus Dec 2012 #48

They held his feet to the fire! treestar Dec 2012 #79

Wait... what? What was that about unicorns? Scootaloo Dec 2012 #58

Upside-down bullshit. Marr Dec 2012 #60

No, I just think you're getting jerked around by Republicans Scootaloo Dec 2012 #65

Then why make an offer at all? Marr Dec 2012 #66

You don't need a crystal ball Scootaloo Dec 2012 #69

Don't put words in my mouth, thank you. Marr Dec 2012 #72

Who said anything about omniscience? Scootaloo Dec 2012 #78

Well said. AnotherMcIntosh Dec 2012 #81

I sometimes wonder if some of the Obama-haters are actually right-wingers who delight in.... OldDem2012 Dec 2012 #41

Could be, but I would imagine that CheapShotArtist Dec 2012 #98

So Nancy Pelosi and Hoyer and the Congressional Caucus were imaging things? sabrina 1 Dec 2012 #51

It can't be off the table permanently, because woo me with science Dec 2012 #54

What happens if he "sets up the target" and they accept his deal? freedom fighter jh Dec 2012 #8

Because Simpson Bowles never resulted in Social Security cuts WonderGrunion Dec 2012 #12

YUP ... this is about the 6th or 7th hair-on-fire session on this exact topic. JoePhilly Dec 2012 #38

okay, just back up a second hfojvt Dec 2012 #52

It seems that your logic boils down to customerserviceguy Dec 2012 #86

Sometimes I really wish the cheerleaders and fanboys would Resonance_Chamber Dec 2012 #9

Here is what I see clearly WonderGrunion Dec 2012 #11

I do not hate nor do I like Pres Obama Resonance_Chamber Dec 2012 #15

President Obama made one speech supporting single payer while a state legislator WonderGrunion Dec 2012 #16

Those programs exist, the GOP hates them, therefore, they are always on the table. JoePhilly Dec 2012 #39

Respectfully, this OP is nonsense Demo_Chris Dec 2012 #17

Obama didn't lie to us. WonderGrunion Dec 2012 #19

"his word means bloody little to him" - perfect description in 7 words. forestpath Dec 2012 #32

Have you ever played poker? Do you understand the concept of a 'bluff'? Did you know that coalition_unwilling Dec 2012 #70

So you consider it good politics to "bluff" with peoples lives? SomethingFishy Dec 2012 #92

Speaking of poker... Demo_Chris Dec 2012 #96

Oh shit son MFrohike Dec 2012 #97

Compare the president to a mean spirited trickster...and then tell me how much HereSince1628 Dec 2012 #18

I'm a mean spirited Democrat WonderGrunion Dec 2012 #20

I'm glad can you see what you want to see. HereSince1628 Dec 2012 #21

Its the rose colored glasses Resonance_Chamber Dec 2012 #23

Reality is not rose colored glasses. tridim Dec 2012 #26

At best it's a game of chicken Fumesucker Dec 2012 #22

He has no skin in the game so to speak Resonance_Chamber Dec 2012 #24

Well said customerserviceguy Dec 2012 #90

And if Boehner had come up with the votes? TheCowsCameHome Dec 2012 #25

That's kind of a wingnut tricksy thing - djean111 Dec 2012 #27

Well said. Anytime you hear Obama talking about cutting the deficit, like he did yesterday, forestpath Dec 2012 #34

Of all the things to be pissed about over the past 25 years of my life... Comrade_McKenzie Dec 2012 #28

None so blind as those who will not see... nt COLGATE4 Dec 2012 #30

It's risking seniors' well being in the future in an attmpt to protect most people now Orangepeel Dec 2012 #35

SS cuts should be absolutely OFF THE TABLE tabasco Dec 2012 #40

So your basic premise is... 99Forever Dec 2012 #42

That is what it sounds like to me also... kentuck Dec 2012 #49

+1 leftstreet Dec 2012 #50

Indeed Oilwellian Dec 2012 #62

Obama is too smart and strong of a man to play games, even this one. Autumn Dec 2012 #43

As long as the debt ceiling was attached to chained cpi WonderGrunion Dec 2012 #44

Of course. But they could have accepted it. Obama had to have been prepared for them to. Autumn Dec 2012 #45

Oh yes, I forgot-- he's omniscient. Marr Dec 2012 #67

I was starting to doubt, until I read the WSJ article this morning democrattotheend Dec 2012 #47

What bugs me about Obama and SS AndyA Dec 2012 #53

If Obama was bluffing, it was a dangerous way to bluff duffyduff Dec 2012 #56

Have you played much poker? Obama knew the GOP could not call his bluff (because coalition_unwilling Dec 2012 #73

I have not played all that much poker, but from what I understand gambling with Grandma's Bluenorthwest Dec 2012 #85

Somehow the poker and bluffing metaphors are being misused and abused in this coalition_unwilling Dec 2012 #89

Soc Sec Trust Fund, FAQ's - pinto Dec 2012 #80

Why is hating SS cuts (and the offering of SS cuts) equated with hating Obama? AnotherMcIntosh Dec 2012 #57

I don't even care why, Obama is a temporary steward and SS will be critical in our lives TheKentuckian Dec 2012 #61

Truth, right there Autumn Dec 2012 #63

To make it about the team, not the policies, woo me with science Dec 2012 #64

Your OP notwithstanding, I'd still hate to find myself in a game of poker with Obama. I'm coalition_unwilling Dec 2012 #71

IMO, the internationalists who carry the Democratic banner after being elected by us are going AnotherMcIntosh Dec 2012 #74

Everyone should prepare to go into the streets for real to protect Social Security WHENEVER it is patrice Dec 2012 #76

I'm just not sure... TDale313 Dec 2012 #77

I'll believe it when they refuse to do anything this session and then make and back Egalitarian Thug Dec 2012 #82

I get called an Obamabot a lot DonCoquixote Dec 2012 #101

Actually, it's more like this: JackRiddler Dec 2012 #103