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OneTenthofOnePercent

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143. Welcome to the basis behind the theory of qualified concealed carry permit holders.
Sat Dec 22, 2012, 01:17 AM
Dec 2012

That one of the NRA's end goals --> concealed carry pretty much everywhere. It's EXCATLY what LaPierre meant when he blamed "Gun-free zones." He could have just we need more cops since cops can go into schools currently... that's not a problem. And people trust cops... the only real opposition to more beat cops in schools is money. But it's qualified teachers and administrators with permits to carry/have concealed weapons that is his goal.

Nickel's worth of free advice: "Gun Free Zone" is NRA code word for "Places gun toters can't legally go (yet)"

LaPierre basically doubled-down on expanding the USA's current tidal-wave of concealed carry laws and it want over the heads of most of the opposition. Hundreds of thousands of people were subliminally mind-screwed by LaPierre yesterday and didn't even know it.

I know! Let's do what the countries with low gun death rates do!!!! nt valerief Dec 2012 #1
Yes, look at England. They would make a great model. Walk away Dec 2012 #11
Whats the problem with buying ammo online? Travis_0004 Dec 2012 #45
I believe you should have to buy your ammo in person with a.... Walk away Dec 2012 #106
well, since ammo is protected under the 2nd Amendment OneTenthofOnePercent Dec 2012 #114
I'm sure you aren't making it up.... Walk away Dec 2012 #123
Where does the second amendment say that! Tumbulu Dec 2012 #150
Actually, it's not; the 2nd amendment specifies no particular forms of arms Scootaloo Dec 2012 #154
or cold medicine! piratefish08 Dec 2012 #176
and i'm really noticing the decrease in meth around here. not. HiPointDem Dec 2012 #178
Oh man BeyondGeography Dec 2012 #181
I think you might be right. Voting has killed thousands of people just in the last twelve years. Ed Suspicious Dec 2012 #203
How does that solve anything Travis_0004 Dec 2012 #115
Switzerland registers any purchase of ammo. Democracyinkind Dec 2012 #169
So your think that if a criminal is going to go on a murder spree, then having to register ammo . . Travis_0004 Dec 2012 #183
Non-compliance is a weak argument for non-restriction. Democracyinkind Dec 2012 #185
Other countries not only register gun and ammo sales nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #195
Australia did it. valerief Dec 2012 #74
As long as we're pretending to be England ComplimentarySwine Dec 2012 #97
Not all of the police in GB are unarmed and they have an armed Military. Walk away Dec 2012 #105
So your answer to people thinking that their government is coming to get them ComplimentarySwine Dec 2012 #125
No, to get their private arsenal. Marr Dec 2012 #162
England's gun crime rate went up for over a decade after they passed their laws Mojorabbit Dec 2012 #104
The US and GB have the same knife murder rate. The US gun murder rate is 150 times that of GB. Walk away Dec 2012 #129
I am posting the information that is out there Mojorabbit Dec 2012 #158
Have a high non-gun death rate? krispos42 Dec 2012 #107
A ban of ALL guns from the streets of the United States. ALL of them. NO tolerance graham4anything Dec 2012 #2
Can I link to this the next time somebody says "nobody wants to ban all guns"? (nt) Recursion Dec 2012 #4
If gun "enthusiasts" won't support reasonable regulations gun nuts will get unreasonable ones. Warren Stupidity Dec 2012 #13
No, they wont. OneTenthofOnePercent Dec 2012 #21
Al Gore once said there are some issues where there are not two answers. Guns are one of them graham4anything Dec 2012 #24
Some experts say that Al Gore lost his race for the Presidency because of gun control. ... spin Dec 2012 #80
Al Gore lost because of the 4 electoral votes in NH that Ralph Nader took away from him graham4anything Dec 2012 #84
Mitt Romney was a very weak candidate. ... spin Dec 2012 #91
Got a list of those experts? NNN0LHI Dec 2012 #184
If Al Gore would have won his home state of Tennessee he would have won the election ... spin Dec 2012 #196
Thanks for responding NNN0LHI Dec 2012 #198
Why should law enforcement have them? ComplimentarySwine Dec 2012 #100
Mainly because confiscating all these weapons is impossible. ... spin Dec 2012 #197
Seems like a good argument for why non-law enforcement should own then n/t ComplimentarySwine Dec 2012 #206
Yep caraher Dec 2012 #30
"gun nuts will get unreasonable ones" former-republican Dec 2012 #34
+100. nt Skip Intro Dec 2012 #49
I think you should. A link to one random guy on the internet is SO POWERFUL. Care Acutely Dec 2012 #152
Does that include cops and the military? Lizzie Poppet Dec 2012 #59
Only Feds/State/Local police, with the Feds supervising everything should have weapons graham4anything Dec 2012 #81
Yay! Police state! Lizzie Poppet Dec 2012 #92
I know right. Creepy statements. nt Mojorabbit Dec 2012 #108
You living life in fear is making this county unsafe for my kids DisgustipatedinCA Dec 2012 #103
Your gratuitous personal insult aside, you're simply wrong. Lizzie Poppet Dec 2012 #190
Your love of guns belies your claim DisgustipatedinCA Dec 2012 #199
Gosh, thanks, doctor! Lizzie Poppet Dec 2012 #201
I see you're still looking for a way to delete your account DisgustipatedinCA Dec 2012 #212
Your mind BainsBane Dec 2012 #173
Ever heard of learning a little practical self-defense? countryjake Dec 2012 #174
Of course I have. Lizzie Poppet Dec 2012 #191
So you feel safer keeping a gun around... countryjake Dec 2012 #213
Chances are? Lizzie Poppet Dec 2012 #218
Impossible to ban guns wercal Dec 2012 #142
As soon as you turn in your computer and start writing out your posts rl6214 Dec 2012 #159
More of the we need more guns and gun control won't work. upaloopa Dec 2012 #3
A "whatever you wish to call those weapons of rapid murder" ban. pkdu Dec 2012 #5
another NRA supporter on DU. WTF! Warren Stupidity Dec 2012 #6
no shit.... barnabas63 Dec 2012 #9
Has nothing to do with "NRA supporter"... OneTenthofOnePercent Dec 2012 #14
oh bullshit. at least be honest. Warren Stupidity Dec 2012 #27
Well, then good luck promoting a semi-auto or complete ban. OneTenthofOnePercent Dec 2012 #47
One cop = militarization? Travis_0004 Dec 2012 #65
Small arms industry is worth 1.8 billion in the US Confusious Dec 2012 #157
Actually guns are really giving the economy a huge boost right now. rl6214 Dec 2012 #160
The US economy is like 15 trillion GDP Confusious Dec 2012 #171
"Brownell's sells 3.5 years of high-cap magazines in 5 days." beevul Dec 2012 #208
3 years of magazines is a piss in the bucket Confusious Dec 2012 #211
Actually some of them are selling this month what they normally sell in a year rl6214 Dec 2012 #214
"some" is the operative word Confusious Dec 2012 #217
Look, this really isn't very complicated ComplimentarySwine Dec 2012 #102
+1. Even with 100% bans and confiscations tomorrow, you'd still have school shootings. OneTenthofOnePercent Dec 2012 #111
You are only fooling the other lead poisoned gunners. morningfog Dec 2012 #119
cowards are a dime a dozen Skittles Dec 2012 #31
^^^^ THIS!! madinmaryland Dec 2012 #122
Follow Australia's lead. Seriously. JaneyVee Dec 2012 #7
Agree. If the tough Aussies did it in 1996, why not us ? Hoyt Dec 2012 #10
Gun ownership in Australia hasn't gone down since 1996 Recursion Dec 2012 #23
People aren't walking around with them, and there are few assault weapons working. Hoyt Dec 2012 #53
They need to redefine. Maybe ban all semi-autos, including handguns. Hoyt Dec 2012 #8
Can't ban handguns - read Heller. nt hack89 Dec 2012 #60
I like the rationale from 4 dissenting justices, not scalia's BS. Hoyt Dec 2012 #61
So? Dissent means they lost the argument. nt hack89 Dec 2012 #70
Yeah, you see Chicago and DC rushing to change things. Besides the court mix will change and you Hoyt Dec 2012 #82
Chicago and DC have had their asses handed to themselves. hack89 Dec 2012 #86
Chicago/DC have not changed one law, and guns aren't as popular now that you guys got irresponsible. Hoyt Dec 2012 #89
You would be wrong about DC hack89 Dec 2012 #90
So you don't think judges take public sentiment into account? Hoyt Dec 2012 #94
Do you think Roberts and Scalia give a damn about the public? nt hack89 Dec 2012 #96
Doesn't matter what YOU like, it matters what the decision is rl6214 Dec 2012 #161
Chit happens, and decisions change, not to mention society's view of you "hobby." Hoyt Dec 2012 #186
So ban based upon muzzle velocity and rate of fire. Plus, ban the AR-15 and AK-47 lower receivers. RomneyLies Dec 2012 #12
not going to happen former-republican Dec 2012 #19
"I hope it's not going to happen" RomneyLies Dec 2012 #20
Why on earth do you care about a lower receiver? It has *nothing* to do with the weapon's abilities Recursion Dec 2012 #26
Ban the lower receiver and who gives a shit about the rest. RomneyLies Dec 2012 #37
Oh, ha. I like the way you think. Recursion Dec 2012 #41
What is your cut off point for muzzle velocity? former-republican Dec 2012 #44
Start rating them RomneyLies Dec 2012 #51
The latter solution is what is going to happen if the gun extremists continue to block other reforms Warren Stupidity Dec 2012 #56
Details would have to be worked out but I'm fine with it former-republican Dec 2012 #72
The "crazy unhinged" are those who won't accept any limits to their bloated sense of "freedom" BeyondGeography Dec 2012 #182
Was that so hard ? , I guess you're NOT part of the gun grabber nuts former-republican Dec 2012 #58
Yep, you can still own 'em under the NFA RomneyLies Dec 2012 #62
I wouldn't care if every firearm was not just semi autos former-republican Dec 2012 #75
Do you know what happens when you make stupid things a felony? ComplimentarySwine Dec 2012 #112
So then why make anything illegal? RomneyLies Dec 2012 #117
Maybe that would solve the problem. ComplimentarySwine Dec 2012 #124
The NFA is simple RomneyLies Dec 2012 #127
Yeah, good luck with that Romney rl6214 Dec 2012 #163
If the NRA is a gun lobbying group then they should pay for it.. Historic NY Dec 2012 #15
assault weapons ban is a good start. semi automatics too. armed guards = really stupid idea. spanone Dec 2012 #16
If armed guards for our children is such a stupid idea ComplimentarySwine Dec 2012 #113
because racist RW gun nuts threaten his family weekly, they're not your average kids. bettyellen Dec 2012 #131
That doesn't really answer the question ComplimentarySwine Dec 2012 #135
"similar security" would be more than one guard per student/ school day , LOL. and same at the malls bettyellen Dec 2012 #137
Car pools, parks, malls, etc. ComplimentarySwine Dec 2012 #145
Like I said - IDIOTIC. bettyellen Dec 2012 #153
His kids are not any better than or worth any more than my kids rl6214 Dec 2012 #164
So go hire fucking guards, genius! bettyellen Dec 2012 #168
I don't need to, they have me rl6214 Dec 2012 #215
Maybe to make stupid people ask stupid questions. Thinkingabout Dec 2012 #200
Stupid questions such as, why did Bill Clinton propose the idea? ComplimentarySwine Dec 2012 #205
Like I said, now if the shoe fits you need to wear it. Thinkingabout Dec 2012 #210
You know where else you find the bushmaster regularly? nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #17
The Bushmaster is not used by any military I know of, and militias prefer the AK-47 Recursion Dec 2012 #28
You CANNOT find a Bushmaster in any combat zone anywhere in the world rl6214 Dec 2012 #165
The definition of assault weapon should be expanded then treestar Dec 2012 #18
Don't think you a pump action shotgun can kill a lot of people pretty fast as well? n/t ComplimentarySwine Dec 2012 #116
The one thing about defining phrases like "Assault Weapon"? You can alter the definition! jmg257 Dec 2012 #22
YES!!! Maybe you got it now! YES ban the goddamn assaualt weapons rustydog Dec 2012 #25
One of the points in the OP is that the rifle Lanza had was NOT an Assault Weapon. OneTenthofOnePercent Dec 2012 #33
SO, are you arguing for a greatly expanded weapons ban then? nt jmg257 Dec 2012 #38
I'm going to argue for a solution that will BOTH have a chance of working and a chance of passing. OneTenthofOnePercent Dec 2012 #50
In a gun range without someone shooting back, or screaming and running back and forth rustydog Dec 2012 #141
Stop Recursion Dec 2012 #39
Whoa - the Bushmaster AR-15 is modeled after Armalites/Stoners AR-10 & AR-15 series. jmg257 Dec 2012 #43
No. You're talking about the shell. I'm talking about the actual weapon: the upper receiver and bolt Recursion Dec 2012 #52
I'm talking about the weapon... jmg257 Dec 2012 #63
You are getting way to technical for these guys former-republican Dec 2012 #83
Quick point: naaman fletcher Dec 2012 #42
oh, fuck it then. never mind. elehhhhna Dec 2012 #29
I propose taxing all guns XRubicon Dec 2012 #32
Agree...tax the living hell out of them BeyondGeography Dec 2012 #46
Chris Rock on bullet control XRubicon Dec 2012 #71
it won't work. Algebra Palin Dec 2012 #35
Why did Lanza wear a bullet proof vest? Downwinder Dec 2012 #36
Did he? n/t OneTenthofOnePercent Dec 2012 #40
ABC News: Downwinder Dec 2012 #48
thx. did not know that. n/t OneTenthofOnePercent Dec 2012 #54
Curious. Did the vest belong to his mother? immoderate Dec 2012 #76
And as soon as he heard sirens he shot himself in the head rl6214 Dec 2012 #166
Don't depend on it. Downwinder Dec 2012 #175
It's happened every time except for the Colorado movie theater murderer rl6214 Dec 2012 #216
Why wouldn't someone that wants to kill a high number of kids just go somewhere w/o guards? LostInAnomie Dec 2012 #55
A lot of those places aren't "gun free safe zones" ComplimentarySwine Dec 2012 #118
So ban that shit too. Fine with me. MichiganVote Dec 2012 #57
State-wide bans are useless since crossing state lines is so easy. randome Dec 2012 #64
He didn't have to sneak it into CT. It's legal under the AWB Recursion Dec 2012 #67
Then obviously it needs to be strengthened and applied to the entire country. randome Dec 2012 #180
like with drugs... green for victory Dec 2012 #155
Considering that he had Aerows Dec 2012 #66
100 round drums could probably be banned pretty easily Recursion Dec 2012 #69
If things are worth trying, would you support a sunset clause on any legislation? OneTenthofOnePercent Dec 2012 #121
Repeal 2nd Amendment and enact Australia style gun laws. That is meaningful action. Dems to Win Dec 2012 #68
"I hate to shit in your cornflakes" DainBramaged Dec 2012 #73
You cant shit Livluvgrow Dec 2012 #85
Didn't You Post This Same Thing A Few Hours Ago? HangOnKids Dec 2012 #98
right Livluvgrow Dec 2012 #128
It's a nutty place, and logic and reality need not apply. NYC_SKP Dec 2012 #207
Sounds like a start. I am down with 10 million melted down a year. morningfog Dec 2012 #120
You did indeed shit in my cornflakes, and the turds magically spell "N.R.A."... VOX Dec 2012 #77
the NRA said it. it is without a doubt BS farminator3000 Dec 2012 #78
I realize that this is going to be difficult for someone like you to understand jeff47 Dec 2012 #79
Don't forget Virginia Tech atreides1 Dec 2012 #87
So, you're arguing for doing nothing, then? yewberry Dec 2012 #88
LOL..gun nuts don't seem to understand that when they think they are renie408 Dec 2012 #93
If that's your only option... I'm elated. OneTenthofOnePercent Dec 2012 #99
Oh, of course that is not our only option. renie408 Dec 2012 #110
A minor quibble about Fort Hood. Glassunion Dec 2012 #138
If others aren't allowed to be armed, how did the officer come in armed? rustydog Dec 2012 #144
My statements support nothing. Glassunion Dec 2012 #149
I think you make a great point... OneGrassRoot Dec 2012 #172
Stupid post. TheCowsCameHome Dec 2012 #95
This message was self-deleted by its author Sekhmets Daughter Dec 2012 #101
Ban semi-automatics, automatics, and handguns. Nye Bevan Dec 2012 #109
I don't go that far but agree in principle Kaleva Dec 2012 #139
So you can't stop every mass killing with an assault weapon ban bhikkhu Dec 2012 #126
You missed the intent of the Original Post... OneTenthofOnePercent Dec 2012 #140
I got the intent, but its the same old argument bhikkhu Dec 2012 #148
Wayne, is that you? Agnosticsherbet Dec 2012 #130
It was not a ban, so the name really should change. Kennah Dec 2012 #132
Columbine had a Deputy Sheriff outside ... Kennah Dec 2012 #133
Well if we need armed guards in the schools we will also need them in doc03 Dec 2012 #134
Welcome to the basis behind the theory of qualified concealed carry permit holders. OneTenthofOnePercent Dec 2012 #143
No, hundreds of thousands of people saw LP's mind is screwed up. bettyellen Dec 2012 #167
Derp 99Forever Dec 2012 #136
Tax the shit right outta your cornflakes... countryjake Dec 2012 #146
Ya missed a few things. NashvilleLefty Dec 2012 #147
It works at airports, courts, Congress, etc, raquel69 Dec 2012 #151
NOTHING we propose will work, WE don't make the laws so quit the bullshit DainBramaged Dec 2012 #156
CT is tiny BainsBane Dec 2012 #170
I blame his right wing deceased mother. B Calm Dec 2012 #177
I Blame the shooter, but everyone seems to think he is innocent The Straight Story Dec 2012 #187
The gun, in fact did do the shooting. Whovian Dec 2012 #189
None that I can see is not blaming the shooter nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #194
Republican/NRA talking points designed to disrupt our progressive forum Kolesar Dec 2012 #179
Easy. JoeyT Dec 2012 #188
We need a national assault weapons ban democrattotheend Dec 2012 #192
That doesn't even make sense regarding the CT school shooting. OneTenthofOnePercent Dec 2012 #193
Love talking points nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #202
only an idiot thinbks the solution to gun violence is more guns bowens43 Dec 2012 #204
NRA talking point if I ever seen one. Gun nuts don't care loyalkydem Dec 2012 #209
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