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In reply to the discussion: Adam Lanza was wearing a bulletproof vest. How could armed teachers have stopped him? [View all]Recursion
(56,582 posts)3. Because getting shot in the torso when you're in body armor still knocks you out
That's a kilojoule or so of kinetic energy, spread out across your rib cage. You will definitely drop what you are holding and be stunned. There's a high probability you will lose consciousness (it was a punch to the chest that knocked out Tyson, remember).
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Adam Lanza was wearing a bulletproof vest. How could armed teachers have stopped him? [View all]
AZ Progressive
Dec 2012
OP
Zimmerman was a coward too.And a member of a security force when he shot & killed Mr. Martin
graham4anything
Dec 2012
#30
I don't think that there are enough "real pros" to place an armed guard in every single school.
yardwork
Dec 2012
#69
Except for the teacher who kills a kid accidentally when trying to kill a shooter.....
peacebird
Dec 2012
#54
If you are in a panic, do you really think you can accurately shoot someone's head?
AZ Progressive
Dec 2012
#8
With people coming and going all the time in a school, what is it you imagine happening?
randome
Dec 2012
#20
You really think someone can think reasonably in such a panicful situation?
AZ Progressive
Dec 2012
#25
Actually much of my initial training was to engage Spetsnaz in a Nuclear Physical Security situtaion
SQUEE
Dec 2012
#99
Because getting shot in the torso when you're in body armor still knocks you out
Recursion
Dec 2012
#3
Your asking police and security guards to be armed with shotguns when on guard?
AZ Progressive
Dec 2012
#14
In all Chuck Norris's hostage rescues, the gunmen usually stop, hold still, and look around helpless
Bucky
Dec 2012
#94
well actually, the answer is obvious. Teachers need grenades and/or tear gas.
KittyWampus
Dec 2012
#136
I am not joking that I would rather have a drone waiting for the mass murderer than 1 more kid
graham4anything
Dec 2012
#95
Well, if that's where he was relative to the shooters what was he supposed to do
onenote
Dec 2012
#91
And maybe the armed security guard, who probably doesn't get a whole lot of shooting practice,
pnwmom
Dec 2012
#48
When you are putting yourself in a situation where it's reasonable to think there could be trouble
WhoIsNumberNone
Dec 2012
#116
Somehow he walked from the parking lot to the school with 3 guns...apparently one that didn't
libdem4life
Dec 2012
#87
I don't know that its been confirmed that the Sandy Hook shooter was wearing body armor
onenote
Dec 2012
#101
You are posting way over the ballistic knowledge of most members here.
former-republican
Dec 2012
#105
They dont have money for teachers. Where are they getting the budget for armed security guards.
bullimiami
Dec 2012
#111
First you get invisible. Then you get an invisible machine gun. Then, making sure you're not
valerief
Dec 2012
#126
Maybe the teachers can borrow from their students the bulletproof backpack that are flying
southernyankeebelle
Dec 2012
#127
All security guards can make a headshots on moving targets and under extreme pressure....
Marrah_G
Dec 2012
#131