General Discussion

forestpath

(3,102 posts)

50. Bottom line, the only people Obama wants to deprive of income are people making over

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 03:32 PM

Dec 2012

$400,000 a year - and people living on Social Security. And spare me the excuses about how the poorest of the poor will be spared.

It is monstrous to hurt SS recipients. And just as monstrous to defend it.

Edit history

Please sign in to view edit histories.

51 replies

= new reply since forum marked as read

Highlight:

Lawrence O'Donnell and Robert Greenstein on the FACTS of the Soc Sec CPI [View all] grantcart Dec 2012 OP

The only people who think the CPI overstates inflation are in DC or on Wall Street. reformist2 Dec 2012 #1

lol Greenstein disagrees, but I am guessing you didn't watch the video. grantcart Dec 2012 #6

Economists have been saying this since the early 1980's Jeff In Milwaukee Dec 2012 #26

All the "experts" adjust prices down due to technological advancements, but it's a sham. reformist2 Dec 2012 #43

Tell us Grantcart... 99Forever Dec 2012 #2

Yes yes I know fuck them all grantcart Dec 2012 #7

Goin to answer the questions or not? 99Forever Dec 2012 #13

If you bothered to watch the Video then you would have learned that the proposal (presumably) grantcart Dec 2012 #15

So gc, the proposal can either be 'presumed' or 'factual'. Bluenorthwest Dec 2012 #18

I am against "Democrats" playing chicken... 99Forever Dec 2012 #23

Show me an elected official saying there was a 5% offset. If it is a 'fact' because LO's guest says Bluenorthwest Dec 2012 #14

Show me an elected official that said they have a complete agreement on anything. grantcart Dec 2012 #17

I see that capped out IF right there at the end. So the offset is speculation, by a non official Bluenorthwest Dec 2012 #24

Pelosi...she said the chained CPI would not be much of a cut. She sits on 35 million dollars while Bluenorthwest Dec 2012 #39

Interesting thata Dean said that he trusted Pelosi on the issue. grantcart Dec 2012 #42

I've made it quite clear what I am against. 99Forever Dec 2012 #44

anybody who thinks 5% (over many years, BTW) is "gutting" librechik Dec 2012 #22

Fucking right I'm "hysterical"... 99Forever Dec 2012 #30

It's not easy to make cuts and I certainly am not in favor of cuts. librechik Dec 2012 #40

When they feed me Republican talking points... 99Forever Dec 2012 #41

your outrage is directed at the wrong people librechik Dec 2012 #46

This message was self-deleted by its author Jeff In Milwaukee Dec 2012 #27

When a Democratic President wants to cut SS, he's going to do so. His first efforts will not be his AnotherMcIntosh Dec 2012 #3

Consider that if Obama lost the 2012 election, those predicting he was going to gut SS JoePhilly Dec 2012 #8

All your metaphorical language doesn't change a thing. Walk toward the light. Come back to reality. AnotherMcIntosh Dec 2012 #16

I live in reality. Those who make the same failed prediction endlesssly do not. JoePhilly Dec 2012 #21

What same failed prediction or predictions? AnotherMcIntosh Dec 2012 #32

We were discussing predictions about Social Security, and you change the subject ... not JoePhilly Dec 2012 #34

Actually, "If Obama is trying to gut SS," he is persistent. AnotherMcIntosh Dec 2012 #37

Sounds like a win-win for you ... you can be outraged either way. JoePhilly Dec 2012 #38

As Obama strays closer to Blue Dog territory, he needs longer and harder pushes from the left. byeya Dec 2012 #35

Didn't watch the video did you. Have no idea about the 5% offset, right? grantcart Dec 2012 #9

So you didn't hear him say that SS was off the table, until it was back on the table? AnotherMcIntosh Dec 2012 #20

Hear! Hear! byeya Dec 2012 #36

ROBERT GREENSTEIN ANSWERS CRITICS ON CHAINED CPI GeorgeGist Dec 2012 #4

Late to the game. Now the official OFA line on DU is that Obama never seriously offered chained Bluenorthwest Dec 2012 #5

I've tried to bring up the "offset" for poorer elderly people frazzled Dec 2012 #10

Please, please show a quote from the President saying the things you claim he 'keeps repeating'. Bluenorthwest Dec 2012 #33

I did not snark and did not "make an exit" frazzled Dec 2012 #48

Greenstein used to do events at Third Way with Pete Peterson fyi Report1212 Dec 2012 #11

The last sentence is VERY deceptive, bordering on dishonest. reformist2 Dec 2012 #12

So is it also a lie that the new formula has been shown to be a more accurate real calculator grantcart Dec 2012 #19

Yes. dawg Dec 2012 #25

There is no actual proof of this offset the pundit is going on about. Bluenorthwest Dec 2012 #28

The problem is that ProSense Dec 2012 #29

There is another problem grantcart Dec 2012 #47

Horsehocky! THe chained CPI is nothing short of compounding of underpayment 1-Old-Man Dec 2012 #31

And why is it that with all the various CPIs out there, they always go for the lowest one??? Hmmm??? reformist2 Dec 2012 #45

K&R closeupready Dec 2012 #49

Bottom line, the only people Obama wants to deprive of income are people making over forestpath Dec 2012 #50

Here is the Problem Liberal1975 Dec 2012 #51