Fri Dec 21, 2012, 01:03 PM

War is 60% of our budget. That's the ONLY place cuts need to come from. [View all]

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The wars have ended, lets get that money back before we starve the elderly.

Cutting Social Security makes no sense, since SOCIAL SECURITY DOES NOT ADD ONE NICKEL TO THE DEFICIT.

On Edit: I feel compelled to keep posting this stuff, since the arguments seem to have gotten down into the the weeds with that Fiscal Bluff/chained CPI nonsense.

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War is 60% of our budget. That's the ONLY place cuts need to come from. [View all]	grahamhgreen	Dec 2012	OP
Totally agreed	treestar	Dec 2012	#1
If it's military "RELATED" expenses then it's even more than 60% CIA, DIA, NSA etc...	uponit7771	Dec 2012	#2
Homeland Security... (3.5%)	grahamhgreen	Dec 2012	#3
Look at all the costs	nineteen50	Dec 2012	#19
America's afraid of it's own formidable shadow. We are a nation at fear.	AAO	Dec 2012	#88
Thank you.	woo me with science	Dec 2012	#68
Some of the military budget is hidden in strange places	DavidDvorkin	Dec 2012	#76
+1, Used to work for DOD...money is spread out	uponit7771	Dec 2012	#77
Almost any science / technology program is dual purpose, even medical research...	reACTIONary	Dec 2012	#98
That's what I was told when I worked there, 1967-1971	DavidDvorkin	Dec 2012	#105
Thanks for the info. When LBJ said that we should seize the "high ground" of space...	reACTIONary	Dec 2012	#110
Media and pundits always say that Social Security/Medicare is ~40% of the budget	TheProgressive	Dec 2012	#4
Not true. You are the one not telling the truth.	guardian	Dec 2012	#23
But it is... please read the 'Highlights'	TheProgressive	Dec 2012	#26
Disgree. That issue does not happen for 21 years! Simple fix:	grahamhgreen	Dec 2012	#28
+47% (n/t)	klook	Dec 2012	#35
Agree!!!!	Grins	Jan 2013	#141
Those trust fund assets came from FICA contributions over the years (and interest).	spooky3	Dec 2012	#72
And, what about the funds that have been borrowed?	tecelote	Dec 2012	#50
What borrowed funds are you referring to?	TheProgressive	Dec 2012	#56
You mean the funds that were invested	jmowreader	Dec 2012	#65
There are two ways to look at the budget	jmowreader	Dec 2012	#63
+1000 n/t	a geek named Bob	Dec 2012	#5
knr.	bunnies	Dec 2012	#6
+10,000	smirkymonkey	Dec 2012	#7
Fear and greed versus the wellfare of the people.	Gregorian	Dec 2012	#8
Something's not right here ...	Scuba	Dec 2012	#9
You left out the military golf courses for all the generals	Coyotl	Dec 2012	#10
The golf courses can be used by any military personnel of any rank	SnowCritter	Dec 2012	#48
Those are general-funded, not taxpayer-funded	jmowreader	Dec 2012	#52
The Military-Leisure Golf Complex = officials are tee-ing off at taxpayer expense at hundreds	Coyotl	Dec 2012	#64
Take anything Proxmire ridiculed with a grain of salt	jmowreader	Dec 2012	#89
Thank you. Cannot kick and rec often or strongly enough.	woo me with science	Dec 2012	#11
Agree with you ONE HUNDRED percent	Ian62	Dec 2012	#125
That's my	2naSalit	Dec 2012	#12
Could you provide a link to the data source?	TheProgressive	Dec 2012	#13
You should try The Google.	valerief	Dec 2012	#102
+10^100 n/t	RoccoR5955	Dec 2012	#14
K&R	closeupready	Dec 2012	#15
Exactly.	ellisonz	Dec 2012	#16
Hell yes!	daleanime	Dec 2012	#17
Mostly agree, though I think the VA department needs to be left out of that 60%	Bucky	Dec 2012	#18
absolutely!	Ligyron	Dec 2012	#44
The increase required to the VA budget due to going to war	Ian62	Dec 2012	#126
Been sayin it.	DeSwiss	Dec 2012	#20
Great video.	woo me with science	Dec 2012	#25
Wow. War eats $95,000 PER SECOND!	grahamhgreen	Dec 2012	#42
De nada.	DeSwiss	Dec 2012	#54
It cost $300 million TOTAL in the period from 1967 to 1980 to eradicate small pox.	leftlibdem420	Dec 2012	#80
I agree.	DeSwiss	Dec 2012	#83
An excellent quote and very prescient for America today	Ian62	Dec 2012	#124
This is such a great statement on the purpose of war. Thank you for posting it.	Overseas	Dec 2012	#130
1000% Agreed. No cuts to safety not at ALL!!	on point	Dec 2012	#21
hey, killing a noun (terror) isn't free.	JEB	Dec 2012	#22
cese	cese	Dec 2012	#24
Chart is a picture of only the discretionary budget.	korak	Dec 2012	#27
Correction	korak	Dec 2012	#34
The pie chart in the OP represents the GENERAL FUND (programs paid for by income tax)	Lydia Leftcoast	Dec 2012	#119
Total military spending for 2012 is $1,219 bn - that is 35% of TOTAL government spend	Ian62	Dec 2012	#127
'Total Govt spending" includes SS payments that	grahamhgreen	Dec 2012	#137
100% spot on.	ileus	Dec 2012	#29
It's not just the "elephant" in the room, it's the pig in the room, considering more is paid to	mother earth	Dec 2012	#30
K&r...	spanone	Dec 2012	#31
yep	heaven05	Dec 2012	#32
I count the military, homeland security, and TSA in the same bucket.	airplaneman	Dec 2012	#33
Absolutely!!!	Plucketeer	Dec 2012	#36
And how about a link that breaks out the defense budget into war related items	mostlyconfused	Dec 2012	#37
Largest single source of corporate welfare as well. K&R n/t	Egalitarian Thug	Dec 2012	#38
Great charts!	ReRe	Dec 2012	#39
War is 60% of our budget. That's the ONLY place cuts need to come from	Denise21	Dec 2012	#40
Absolutely! It looks by your graph that our best years were during low defense spending.	The Wielding Truth	Dec 2012	#41
That is a very interesting observation,	grahamhgreen	Dec 2012	#69
Too many profiteering warmongers	npk	Dec 2012	#43
You make an excellent point	humbled_opinion	Dec 2012	#45
The military budget ought to be sliced down to 15%	Panasonic	Dec 2012	#46
Kicked and recommended.	Uncle Joe	Dec 2012	#47
Damn Right !!	Maineman	Dec 2012	#49
Until we rid ourselves of our current plutocracy,	Rex	Dec 2012	#51
Hear! Hear!	Raster	Dec 2012	#53
''Money trumps peace.'' -- George Walker Bush, Feb. 14, 2007	Octafish	Dec 2012	#55
I would post these on Facebook but...	Tanta	Dec 2012	#57
Someone tell the president n/t	whatchamacallit	Dec 2012	#58
What exactly is operations and maintenance? Is this the money spent on	Cleita	Dec 2012	#59
Operations as in "Operation Iraqi Liberation" (OIL) aka War on Terra	grahamhgreen	Dec 2012	#60
The Pentagon can't even provide accurate accounting for the funds it receives.	think	Dec 2012	#61
"The bloated Pentagon budget has increased a staggering 95 percent dating back to 2000."	grahamhgreen	Dec 2012	#71
Bingo	Auggie	Dec 2012	#106
K&R nt	ProudProgressiveNow	Dec 2012	#62
Part of the same culture of fear that brings us the "gun culture"	Scootaloo	Dec 2012	#66
Agree	libodem	Dec 2012	#67
We borrow 800-million a week from China to continue the war in Afghanistan	rustydog	Dec 2012	#70
100th REC!	JaneyVee	Dec 2012	#73
Absolutely! (nt)	ehrenfeucht games	Dec 2012	#74
and about half of the world's total lilitary spending	pokerfan	Dec 2012	#75
The fact that we don't talk about cutting military spending demonstrates the need for	Dustlawyer	Dec 2012	#117
Hell, Rmoney wanted to increase the military by $2T	pokerfan	Dec 2012	#121
Yeah, Rmoney was a corp whore too! Let's see who Obama pays back.	Dustlawyer	Dec 2012	#136
The wars have not ended. Have you seen the budget for Afghanistan?	dkf	Dec 2012	#78
I suppose a Republican would include Social Security benefits even though they don't come from the	JDPriestly	Dec 2012	#79
God damn soooooo right. Too far right.	xtraxritical	Dec 2012	#81
DURec!	bvar22	Dec 2012	#82
That's a good way to put it	Canuckistanian	Dec 2012	#84
I completely agree	adieu	Dec 2012	#85
Can't help but agree.	Shrike47	Dec 2012	#86
How much is the total discretionary budget?	andym	Dec 2012	#87
A truly excellent article - spread it FAR AND WIDE	Ian62	Dec 2012	#90
+++	Sancho	Dec 2012	#91
Agreed.	Phentex	Dec 2012	#92
It's long past time to dismantle the empire	FlyByNight	Dec 2012	#93
yes cut the military till it stays in America!	Civilization2	Dec 2012	#94
And.....?	Iggy	Dec 2012	#95
So true!	another_liberal	Dec 2012	#96
I wonder how much of that Operations and Maintenance goes to the oil industry.	valerief	Dec 2012	#97
Great! as long as _none_ of the cuts come from veterans benefits.	Agony	Dec 2012	#99
It would not be dfficult	sulphurdunn	Dec 2012	#100
Yes, it would be easy to save large amounts in operations & procurement	Ian62	Dec 2012	#131
All this stuff	sulphurdunn	Dec 2012	#135
Absolutely! nt	ladjf	Dec 2012	#101
Absolutely agree!	Owl	Dec 2012	#103
This is why no deal is best.	ProSense	Dec 2012	#104
No it doesn't	Ian62	Dec 2012	#132
Hi, do you have a link for the diagrams please?	Rosa Luxemburg	Dec 2012	#107
This 4 minute YouTube video should be required viewing for all Americans.	CrispyQ	Dec 2012	#108
Thank you	november3rd	Dec 2012	#111
first of all, there is still one war going. Second lemme educate you as a soldier...	pasto76	Dec 2012	#109
+1.	CrispyQ	Dec 2012	#116
K&R nt.	abelenkpe	Dec 2012	#112
I don't see debt retirement, interest on debt. Rolled in with military?	Festivito	Dec 2012	#113
Good points /nt	think	Dec 2012	#114
There's also 38 billion in increased Social Security costs from vetrans who can't	grahamhgreen	Dec 2012	#122
And, that would raise that 60%, AND, we the NON-rich have to pay for it.	Festivito	Dec 2012	#123
As a federal worker I have been stating the same fact for YEARS,,	benld74	Dec 2012	#115
another rec and kick. n/t	BlancheSplanchnik	Dec 2012	#118
I can't help thinking of the contrast between Britain and Norway	Lydia Leftcoast	Dec 2012	#120
A very good point	Ian62	Dec 2012	#133
At the very least, bill Big Oil for the US military's "muscle" to get their product to market.	Old and In the Way	Dec 2012	#128
Sickening.	Arugula Latte	Dec 2012	#129
+ trillions...K&R! n/t	AntiFascist	Dec 2012	#134
Amen again. Cannot kick this enough times. nt	woo me with science	Dec 2012	#138
Keeping it up top. nt	woo me with science	Dec 2012	#139
kick	No Compromise	Dec 2012	#140