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RC

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59. We have 30 years to fix Social Security.

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 12:44 PM

Dec 2012

The main reason it is in "trouble" is because of the loss of our Living-Wage-Jobs. Both to off shoring and to the bankrupting an looting of businesses, for the profit of the upper management and "owners".

There is absolutely NO good reason social Security is a part of the budget discussion. None what so ever.

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It's Official: A Democratic President Offered to Cut Social Security [View all] leftstreet Dec 2012 OP

Abusive? Seriously? dkf Dec 2012 #1

SS has nothing to do with the deficit leftstreet Dec 2012 #3

He has no clue about how SS works. He is ok if seniors go hungry today so he can have something rhett o rick Dec 2012 #6

So when do you address the solvency of social security? dkf Dec 2012 #7

Thank you for agreeing SS has nothing to do with the deficit leftstreet Dec 2012 #9

Well it does now since its being partially funded by the general fund. dkf Dec 2012 #12

IIRC, the general fund is repaying a loan it took from SS fund, not quite as you present it.. Lionessa Dec 2012 #13

Social Security is NOT being " partially funded by the general fund" Matariki Dec 2012 #16

It's one of their talking points leftstreet Dec 2012 #18

Let's call it for what it is...a "lying point." KansDem Dec 2012 #76

Exactly - and that is the only reason there is a possibility of a shortfall for Social Security liberal N proud Dec 2012 #52

SS trust has had over $2.7 Trillion taken from it, last I heard. AndyA Dec 2012 #53

Maybe in ten years? Since it is perfectly solvent for the next 22 years sabrina 1 Dec 2012 #38

You apparently dont understand Social Security. It doesnt need a trust fund. rhett o rick Dec 2012 #5

Pay as you go would then need constant changes to keep inflows and outflows in balance. dkf Dec 2012 #8

SS worked just that way for decades Major Nikon Dec 2012 #11

With much better demographics and less of a payroll tax burden. dkf Dec 2012 #14

The assumption that it will ever come to that is not guaranteed Major Nikon Dec 2012 #21

Demographic projections aren't going to change all that much. dkf Dec 2012 #22

It goes back to normal next month Major Nikon Dec 2012 #28

Pay as you go worked fine before Reagan. And the only "change" would be adjustments for COLA's. rhett o rick Dec 2012 #40

Without a trust fund what would have happened to SS payments during the latest downturn? dkf Dec 2012 #41

Research what happened before Reagan. The purpose of the trust fund wasnt to have a slush fund to rhett o rick Dec 2012 #43

Right now the relationship of payments to receipts is mostly positive. dkf Dec 2012 #45

No. He is trying to prevent the current taxpayers from having to repay the money JDPriestly Dec 2012 #20

How many times do you have to be told that SS IS solvent. . sabrina 1 Dec 2012 #23

Making the trust fund last longer is BS. Let grandma starve now so that someday rhett o rick Dec 2012 #47

We have 30 years to fix Social Security. RC Dec 2012 #59

I am also in the 40 range and i am astounded by the responses here. FedUpWithIt All Dec 2012 #70

But..but..the Republicans think it's a swell idea. Tierra_y_Libertad Dec 2012 #2

Reagan would be proud leftstreet Dec 2012 #4

My Letter to the President ProfessionalLeftist Dec 2012 #10

+1 leftstreet Dec 2012 #15

Nice. Shared on Facebook. Thanks. Dark n Stormy Knight Dec 2012 #17

+1000 Thank YOU! smirkymonkey Dec 2012 #31

I've been hearing the new GOP tactic is to split the left away from the Democrats melody Dec 2012 #19

New? Demo_Chris Dec 2012 #24

We're the only party strong enough to battle the Grand Old Psychopaths melody Dec 2012 #27

I look forward to that happening Demo_Chris Dec 2012 #33

Obama is playing the game melody Dec 2012 #56

The game? Demo_Chris Dec 2012 #68

I worked for Obama knowing he'd have no choice but to compromise melody Dec 2012 #69

What's the use in responding when anyone who disagrees with you folk has their remarks removed? n/t melody Dec 2012 #57

i can see a "sane" republican bloc datasuspect Dec 2012 #50

No, liberals aren't akin to tea party extremists, but extreme leftists, well ... melody Dec 2012 #54

OK, this commie will take this on......... socialist_n_TN Dec 2012 #73

Talking to you may be like talking to a tea party extremist melody Dec 2012 #74

That's sort of true......... socialist_n_TN Dec 2012 #77

This wouldn't hurt my feelings at all...... socialist_n_TN Dec 2012 #78

Yawn. It was the same ruse he's used the last three times. cliffordu Dec 2012 #25

But we WON!! Didn't you hear? It's a checkmate!! MrSlayer Dec 2012 #26

Yeah, it's a checkmate for sure leftstreet Dec 2012 #58

Explain why YOU would make an authentic offer to someone who is not negotiating with YOU in good patrice Dec 2012 #29

Some of us are depending on SS for our survival Fumesucker Dec 2012 #30

wrong. I have my Soc Sec plus a tiny very little pension < $300. @ mo. No health care. No savings. patrice Dec 2012 #34

I'm not sure if it's my fault or yours or neither Fumesucker Dec 2012 #35

You know, it's not fair, nor objective, to use words like "comfortable" and "phlegmatic". I suppose patrice Dec 2012 #36

So you aren't "comfortable" having a game of chicken played with your future? Fumesucker Dec 2012 #39

I am scared to death Milliesmom Dec 2012 #32

Healthcare is a huge factor in the way cost of living increases are calculated for Social Security FedUpWithIt All Dec 2012 #71

It takes a Democratic President to make the first stab in the back... lib2DaBone Dec 2012 #37

A Democratic President enacted the COLA. ProSense Dec 2012 #42

CPI and COLA are two separate things leftstreet Dec 2012 #60

hey, guess what. nothing happened. you know that? spanone Dec 2012 #44

... SidDithers Dec 2012 #46

If you never had twenty dollars and I gave you $10, would you consider that i cut your money? nt kelliekat44 Dec 2012 #48

Meanwhile, John Boehner lays weeping in a pool of his own sick. JoePhilly Dec 2012 #49

whatever he agreed to include for the republicans wasn't all the way fleshed out bigtree Dec 2012 #51

Since When Do You RobinA Dec 2012 #62

LOL good question leftstreet Dec 2012 #63

But he had his fingers crossed behind his back when he threw us under the bus! nt Bonobo Dec 2012 #55

If this is true I will go independant ...or maybe just give up and rob a bank for my retirement. L0oniX Dec 2012 #61

Social Security is not means tested treestar Dec 2012 #64

I agree democrattotheend Dec 2012 #66

I also agree n/t FedUpWithIt All Dec 2012 #72

K&R All the more abusive because it's so unnecessary. forestpath Dec 2012 #65

K&R closeupready Dec 2012 #67

They are doing this because they have borrowed too much against it....bastards. SugarShack Dec 2012 #75

Against the wishes of those who voted for him, many who didn't, Doctor_J Dec 2012 #79