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In reply to the discussion: "Regulate" does NOT mean "take them away" [View all]friendly_iconoclast
(15,333 posts)92. I'm saying your attitude strikes me as *very* much like Ward Churchill's:
Quoth you:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=2042170
They MUST deal with the responsibility to promote security that goes with it. THE REST OF US WILL ALLOW NO OTHER OPTION!
The reason for this is because whatever they've been doing, it's been woefully ineffective AND THEY HAVE FAILED MISERABLY! If a gun owner has opposed every kind of gun control, belittles people who are rightly concerned about gun violence, shouts down any discussion on restricting certain guns, or runs down gun control advocacy groups & campaigns against candidates who support gun control, then the blood of the victims of Sandy Hook - and all the other mass murders that have happened - is on their hands.
The reason for this is because whatever they've been doing, it's been woefully ineffective AND THEY HAVE FAILED MISERABLY! If a gun owner has opposed every kind of gun control, belittles people who are rightly concerned about gun violence, shouts down any discussion on restricting certain guns, or runs down gun control advocacy groups & campaigns against candidates who support gun control, then the blood of the victims of Sandy Hook - and all the other mass murders that have happened - is on their hands.
Ward Churchill, from On the Justice of Roosting Chickens
..."As for those in the World Trade Center... Well, really, let's get a grip here, shall we? True enough, they were civilians of a sort. But innocent? Gimme a break. They formed a technocratic corps at the very heart of America's global financial empire - the "mighty engine of profit" to which the military dimension of U.S. policy has always been enslaved - and they did so both willingly and knowingly. Recourse to "ignorance" - a derivative, after all, of the word "ignore" - counts as less than an excuse among this relatively well-educated elite. To the extent that any of them were unaware of the costs and consequences to others of what they were involved in - and in many cases excelling at - it was because of their absolute refusal to see. More likely, it was because they were too busy braying, incessantly and self-importantly, into their cell phones, arranging power lunches and stock transactions, each of which translated, conveniently out of sight, mind and smelling distance, into the starved and rotting flesh of infants. If there was a better, more effective, or in fact any other way of visiting some penalty befitting their participation upon the little Eichmanns inhabiting the sterile sanctuary of the twin towers, I'd really be interested in hearing about it."
"Other"ize them, then blame them...
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Psychiatrists won't risk the liability if they pass somebody who commits a crime...
sanatanadharma
Dec 2012
#57
Some wish to do just that but would like to hear what regulate means to you.
former-republican
Dec 2012
#2
Registration..huge penalties for failure to register to start. There are 300,000,000 cars in the US
libdem4life
Dec 2012
#19
We have around 2000 special agent investigators in the ATF that specifically deal with firearms
former-republican
Dec 2012
#58
Forget psych eval and school renovations..We are not going to be victims of the NRA and gun industry
libdem4life
Dec 2012
#85
OK...I've said on other threads...if we can't approximate the laws on motor vehicles as a start,
libdem4life
Dec 2012
#99
How about another approach...as we're all learning here...a gun owner/parent of an
libdem4life
Dec 2012
#45
A person shall be put to death quickly if convicted of a crime while in possession of a firearm.
MrYikes
Dec 2012
#39
Honest question here: Did everything in the Federalist Papers make it into the Constitution?
patrice
Dec 2012
#54
Agreed. & Concealed carry is not "well regulated" because what is concealed could be anything, could
patrice
Dec 2012
#53
The fact that a gun-nut's son went on a killing spree proves it is not regulated enough
Taverner
Dec 2012
#69
My point is that because it IS concealed, ordinary people in the social environments of their OWN
patrice
Dec 2012
#72
I have found them inspiring as someone who has not ever had to Get In Their Faces for decades.
libdem4life
Dec 2012
#87
I'm saying your attitude strikes me as *very* much like Ward Churchill's:
friendly_iconoclast
Dec 2012
#92
No, they need to come up with an appropriate alternative...seriously lacking in the run of the mill
libdem4life
Dec 2012
#89
There could be required liability and yearly license for every gun which is rapid fire.
Thinkingabout
Dec 2012
#105