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40. Yes, I believe in magic. And shooting guns out of someone's hand was the subject of the OP. nt

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What I Fear, What Made Me Drag my Feet on Gun Control: Brady-Style Gun Control [View all] TPaine7 Dec 2012 OP

Thank you for your thoughtful post.nt kelly1mm Dec 2012 #1

Alas, when I hear terms like “reasonable” “common sense” and “sensible” coming out of the mouths of villager Dec 2012 #2

Too bad so many dragged their feet while continuing to promote more guns. Hoyt Dec 2012 #3

I promote rights, not guns. TPaine7 Dec 2012 #5

George Wallace and Strom Thurmond used to say crud like that. Hoyt Dec 2012 #8

And a defense of unchecked gun proliferation, at this point, is about as historically astute villager Dec 2012 #26

I agree with you. nt Mojorabbit Dec 2012 #18

By your own admission, those "rights" were never intended to apply to self defense Major Nikon Dec 2012 #25

Pls check out post 38 nt TPaine7 Dec 2012 #43

I'll go with justices Stevens, Souter, Ginsburg, and Breyer Major Nikon Dec 2012 #45

The guys I cited WROTE the Constitution. The Fourteenth Amendment is constitutionally correct TPaine7 Dec 2012 #46

And the people I cited were the most liberal justices at the time Major Nikon Dec 2012 #47

There is no need to ignore anything, and Scalia wasn't born when the Framer's wrote the 14th TPaine7 Dec 2012 #50

It all boils down to your opinion Major Nikon Dec 2012 #53

I thought the Republicans had all of the climate change deniers... TPaine7 Dec 2012 #57

So anyone who disagrees with Scalia is equivelant to a climate change denier? Major Nikon Dec 2012 #66

LOL! TPaine7 Dec 2012 #70

Why would you support a Sekhmets Daughter Dec 2012 #80

"or modification." I haven't really thought the details through, but modification of the Second TPaine7 Dec 2012 #81

Do you have any idea Sekhmets Daughter Dec 2012 #82

I'm confused. You spoke in your last post about "sport shooting enthusiasts." TPaine7 Dec 2012 #84

Assault weapon competitions Sekhmets Daughter Dec 2012 #87

"Weapons of war do not belong in the hands of private citizens, period." TPaine7 Dec 2012 #88

Okay. Sekhmets Daughter Dec 2012 #89

No, solutions must be rooted in reality. Amending the Constitiution would actually achieve your TPaine7 Dec 2012 #90

Have you had a discussion yet Sekhmets Daughter Dec 2012 #91

You can license the person instead of the weapon, and require record keeping. TPaine7 Dec 2012 #92

I think that most people have said that... Sekhmets Daughter Dec 2012 #93

I think you mischaracterize the debate... TPaine7 Dec 2012 #94

No, I don't think I mischaracterize anything. Sekhmets Daughter Dec 2012 #95

Of course... TPaine7 Dec 2012 #96

See how easy that was? Sekhmets Daughter Dec 2012 #97

This message was self-deleted by its author bongbong Dec 2012 #4

300 million guns in the US. Are we safe yet? neverforget Dec 2012 #6

No, of course not. Lets have a few million more. baldguy Dec 2012 #12

+1 ellisonz Dec 2012 #61

They sure worked well protecting Lanza's Mother...Didn't they? world wide wally Dec 2012 #76

Hence you have the modern day NRA Glassunion Dec 2012 #7

I'll take the 1920s NRA. nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #10

They actually "supported" the Brady Bill IIRC. Glassunion Dec 2012 #22

For somebody using Thomas Paine's name as a handle nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #9

The founders meant militias, nor people. So you want original intent, that's what they meant RantinRavin Dec 2012 #13

Did you learn about dependent clauses in HS English? nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #14

Federalist 29 is not the only one RantinRavin Dec 2012 #16

Still the historic context is militias and distrust of a standing army nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #17

Please interpret another constitutional provision of the era. TPaine7 Dec 2012 #38

I hate to point this out buddy nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #54

I thought Democrats—Democrats on DU at least—were not rooted, intellectually speaking, TPaine7 Dec 2012 #55

I recommend you read the editorial nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #56

"We fought a civil war. I just hope we don't have to fight another one." TPaine7 Dec 2012 #58

Yes you are on DU nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #62

the poster hasn't 'screamed' or 'pounced' at all. he gave a well-grounded calm argument. HiPointDem Dec 2012 #69

I'm with Thomas. k2qb3 Dec 2012 #23

That's nice. But he was also aware nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #24

Gun control laws should be common. "No discharge of weapons in town" (except in legitimate defense) TPaine7 Dec 2012 #44

i am sorry you feel that nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #48

1934 laws are beside the point, the point being laws of the founding era—the era of Thomas Paine nt TPaine7 Dec 2012 #71

Ah a certain founding father nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #72

What in the world are you talking about? TPaine7 Dec 2012 #73

Thomas Jefferson nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #83

I prefer to think like a person living in this century and looking ahead to next. Hoyt Dec 2012 #34

Like DC did before Heller? TPaine7 Dec 2012 #59

I'm with JA Democracyinkind Dec 2012 #79

And I am with both... TPaine7 Dec 2012 #85

I read it that way too. Democracyinkind Dec 2012 #86

How very magnanimous of you. sadbear Dec 2012 #11

It is them who want more guns. nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #15

You have no idea how magnanimous I am. TPaine7 Dec 2012 #37

So when Occupy decides to carry openly their weapons, you will finally take them seriously. madinmaryland Dec 2012 #19

It seems to me that the strongest gun rights supporters were most eager to give up other rights Fumesucker Dec 2012 #20

You are lumping everyone in with NRA supporters. Honeycombe8 Dec 2012 #28

Gun owners allowed the NRA to become their public face, so be it Fumesucker Dec 2012 #33

Do you accept the Brady Campaign as your public face? nt TPaine7 Dec 2012 #60

I don't have a problem with it Fumesucker Dec 2012 #67

Ok then, you are properly grouped with those who think the pre-Heller DC legal regime TPaine7 Dec 2012 #74

So, do you or do you not agree with the old DC legal regime? nt TPaine7 Dec 2012 #36

Do you have any idea why Brady gave DC a B- , GeorgeGist Dec 2012 #21

They were not strict enough, I guess. nt TPaine7 Dec 2012 #39

Excellent post to point out this aspect of guns. I'm a woman living alone. I know. nt Honeycombe8 Dec 2012 #27

Why is it nearly always the barely literate that invariably insist that their interpretation of Egalitarian Thug Dec 2012 #29

Is your question rhetorical, or are you going to explain the thinking of the barely literate to TPaine7 Dec 2012 #35

My apologies. n/t Egalitarian Thug Dec 2012 #63

Accepted. nt TPaine7 Dec 2012 #65

All I ask TPaine is that you take "attack by SOA" out of the equation. Loudly Dec 2012 #30

I don't think so. Machine guns can be heavily regulated and even banned per Heller. TPaine7 Dec 2012 #42

So, you are one of those that thinks that by carrying NashvilleLefty Dec 2012 #31

Yes, I believe in magic. And shooting guns out of someone's hand was the subject of the OP. nt TPaine7 Dec 2012 #40

So in summary you are an RKBA absolutist. Warren Stupidity Dec 2012 #32

Are you a Brady absolutist? Do you believe that DC's gun laws were too permissive for an "A"? nt TPaine7 Dec 2012 #41

You want know what I fear? Tommy_Carcetti Dec 2012 #49

I also fear that, though obviously not as much as you do. TPaine7 Dec 2012 #51

What some people want is for mass shootings or home invasions to never happen. Jennicut Dec 2012 #52

Thanks for a thoughtful, rational post. nt TPaine7 Dec 2012 #64

yes, the devil's always in the details. one reason i'm leary of new regulations is because so HiPointDem Dec 2012 #68

I thought DC's strict GC laws predated Brady? hootinholler Dec 2012 #75

What "made" you drag your feetl? Did you mean what "makes" you drag your feet? merrily Dec 2012 #77

I support, and have supported, several ways to prevent crimes like the recent shooting. TPaine7 Dec 2012 #78