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In reply to the discussion: It was the white house that leaked the details of Obama's fiscal cliff offer. Not the wingers. [View all]rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)49. I read the article. Thanks for the link. But it sounds too good to be true.
Seems the argument is that if we give up a tiny decrease in Social Security benefits it will not only strengthen SS but also (from the article in your link:
" Higher taxes on the rich: The president, as his counteroffer, has asked for tax rates to go up for at least those making more than $400,000, in response to Speaker Boehner's offer of letting the rates go up on incomes over $1 million.
The proposal would also cap the value of itemized deductions to 28%, basically preventing the rich from taking a greater percent of their incomes in deductions than middle class families.
This, along with the president's proposal to raise capital gains and dividend rates, as well as increasing the estate tax, should bring us pretty close to $1.2 trillion
.
No changes to Medicare benefits.
Extended unemployment benefits and refundable tax credits for the poor and the middle class.
Infrastructure investment.
A two-year extension in the debt limit, avoiding another hostage crisis in a couple of months."
And the Republicans would buy that? What do they get out of it?
Why are they willing to give up so much for a change in SS that will STRENGTHEN it?
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It was the white house that leaked the details of Obama's fiscal cliff offer. Not the wingers. [View all]
HiPointDem
Dec 2012
OP
It's vile of you to mock my concern about seniors. I have never seen Democrats in my life
forestpath
Dec 2012
#24
Wow. You're an even less capable conversationalist than I first dared imagine.
villager
Dec 2012
#33
Considering the high volume of anti-Obama posts and threads here these days,
BlueCaliDem
Dec 2012
#4
A Democrat. Clear now? Whining and criticizing Obama . . . what does that sound like?
BlueCaliDem
Dec 2012
#7
Baggers are concerned about us retired people Obama wants to hurt? You must be delusional.
forestpath
Dec 2012
#8
DEMOCRATS don't throw seniors under the bus to get a "deal." Real Democrats that is.
forestpath
Dec 2012
#13
NO ONE has thrown seniors "under the bus". Not in the real world, that is. eom
BlueCaliDem
Dec 2012
#28
The only conceivable motive for telling the public to shut up about potential cuts to social
HiPointDem
Dec 2012
#16
the white house leaked it. i guess they wanted it to be made public, which means people will
HiPointDem
Dec 2012
#6
Look, neither party lets the public in on the secret backstage kabuki. I don't know who leaked
HiPointDem
Dec 2012
#14
I bet GOP Members of Congress are getting a ton of calls and emails, too....
OldDem2012
Dec 2012
#30
I seriously doubt he could do anything to "represent you". He's not pure enough,
BlueCaliDem
Dec 2012
#22
That can't be true! I know this because other DU posters are saying the President is a traitor to...
OldDem2012
Dec 2012
#31
I didnt say a word bad about the president. Your attempts to make this about hating Obama
rhett o rick
Dec 2012
#37
I doubt the president is going to "touch" social security unless it's to raise
BlueCaliDem
Dec 2012
#41
I sure hope you are correct. I hate just waiting to see where this will go
rhett o rick
Dec 2012
#42
I read the article. Thanks for the link. But it sounds too good to be true.
rhett o rick
Dec 2012
#49
I have canceled my subscription to The Nation be*cause* of their misrepresenting
BlueCaliDem
Dec 2012
#54
So that's the discussion. Now we are talking about how you dont trust The Nation?
rhett o rick
Dec 2012
#55
If someone has to resort to calling names like "Obama hater", then they obvioulsly dont have
rhett o rick
Dec 2012
#52
Exactly. A baloon is floated and if it doesn't go down in flames it is adopted. n/t
PoliticAverse
Dec 2012
#29
maybe. in that case having people riled up about the possible cuts just strengthens his hand.
HiPointDem
Dec 2012
#45