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In the discussion thread: National Review says it is impossible to end routine gun massacres, given 2nd amendment [View all]

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Thu Dec 20, 2012, 01:26 AM

bettyellen (20,070 posts)

66. well, that's easy to say if you don't live in NYC. i think the security thing is overdone in the

flyover states. but you can be sure if there were repeated attacks close to your home, you and your neighbors would be damned grateful for some measures taken to prevent more.

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96 replies	Author	Time	Post
National Review says it is impossible to end routine gun massacres, given 2nd amendment [View all]	Dems to Win	Dec 2012	OP
Human sacrifice? Is that what they're basically advocating?	The Velveteen Ocelot	Dec 2012	#1
Things like this make a mockery of America to the world	AZ Progressive	Dec 2012	#12
Yes. Human Sacrifice is EXACTLY what they are demanding in tribute to their sacred Second Amendment	Dems to Win	Dec 2012	#50
Disgusting, aren't they?	Lone_Star_Dem	Dec 2012	#65
Is it any different than saying "God moves in mysterious ways..."	WCGreen	Dec 2012	#71
Not really.	Lone_Star_Dem	Dec 2012	#80
Does the National Review support eliminating the Second Amendment???	NYC_SKP	Dec 2012	#2
The ease with which so many are willing to sacrifice their rights is scary. nt	Skip Intro	Dec 2012	#6
Oh please you don't need a gun.	white_wolf	Dec 2012	#11
Interestingly, I have a right to own a gun, but no right to own a home	Scootaloo	Dec 2012	#62
We lost our dignity and we sacrificed various rights long ago	fujiyama	Dec 2012	#63
How're you liking your Mossburg 500 killing machine? Happy with its sleek design?	riderinthestorm	Dec 2012	#22
Since you ask: It actually is neither semi-automatic nor using a high capacity magazine.	NYC_SKP	Dec 2012	#27
Info taken from Wiki. Your words in the (deleted OP) admiring its sleek design.	riderinthestorm	Dec 2012	#37
What, exactly, is your complaint about this AWB compliant single shot limited magazine firearm????	NYC_SKP	Dec 2012	#42
The citizens of Newtown just shed a single collective tear for your hurt feelings. NT	Tommy_Carcetti	Dec 2012	#74
Oh no. NR supports sacrificing human children to the great god, Smith and Wesson	Dems to Win	Dec 2012	#55
Ya...look at all those countries in Western Europe with strict gun laws	Cali_Democrat	Dec 2012	#56
If they want to paint themselves into a corner, fine. Everyone else is moving on.	reformist2	Dec 2012	#3
Cause we all know we have never ever, cross my heart,	nadinbrzezinski	Dec 2012	#4
Heartsick K, and despairing R for more eyes on this story... nt	riderinthestorm	Dec 2012	#5
But gun regulations aren't (or shouldn't be) about preventing all notorious tragedies	Recursion	Dec 2012	#7
OK fine, let's try to prevent the thousands upon thousands of anonymous tragedies	Dems to Win	Dec 2012	#58
Govt is not obligated to protect an individual unless in custody. Self-defense is a personal	jody	Dec 2012	#8
Your subject line is utterly false.	white_wolf	Dec 2012	#15
An individual? Nope. "the public"? Yes.	X_Digger	Dec 2012	#16
I actually thought of those cases after I posted	white_wolf	Dec 2012	#23
It was a bit of shorthand on his part, I'm sure.	X_Digger	Dec 2012	#29
Sorry I'm right, see CASTLE ROCK V. GONZALES (04-278) 545 U.S. 748 (2005)	jody	Dec 2012	#18
Sorry, you're wrong. Book a 2-week vacation to Somalia. If you get back	DisgustipatedinCA	Dec 2012	#94
Read X_Digger post #16 a more complete explanation than my single Castle Rock v. Gonzales nt	jody	Dec 2012	#95
SCOTUS has ruled against you.	GreenStormCloud	Dec 2012	#26
You can't get off the cops using handguns. That is such a strange argument.	morningfog	Dec 2012	#24
Fair enough. You're right on this point. n/t	white_wolf	Dec 2012	#31
Thanks and have a great evening. nt	jody	Dec 2012	#32
Problem is we hear many stories about crime	treestar	Dec 2012	#79
Please browse DU's RKBA group and you'll find thousands of stories about guns protecting victims. nt	jody	Dec 2012	#81
Many of them have been discredited too	treestar	Dec 2012	#82
Please provide a link to a DU post of use of a firearm to prevent a crime that has been discredited.	jody	Dec 2012	#84
It's easy enough to find if you read all the posts	treestar	Dec 2012	#92
Thanks, I'll wait for your reply. Until then I'll believe you're wrong. nt	jody	Dec 2012	#96
Then Hey, Hey, Ho, Ho, the Second Amendment's got to go...	Agnosticsherbet	Dec 2012	#9
That includes the right to life.	Llewlladdwr	Dec 2012	#10
The national review seems to think gun ownership trumps children's right to life.	Agnosticsherbet	Dec 2012	#13
You have a point. From my unscientific studies	Glassunion	Dec 2012	#14
tsk tsk tsk Post Hoc Propter Ergo Hoc ;)	X_Digger	Dec 2012	#17
Blah de blah...	Glassunion	Dec 2012	#35
Correlation does not imply causation! :P	X_Digger	Dec 2012	#38
I get how the guy was feeling.	Glassunion	Dec 2012	#40
The world revolves on an axis because I wake up every day.	LanternWaste	Dec 2012	#76
Does that mean abortion prevents death? nt	jody	Dec 2012	#33
Perhaps.	Glassunion	Dec 2012	#36
But if one believes life begins at conception, then abortion is death? nt	jody	Dec 2012	#41
However, they have not been afflicted with birth.	Glassunion	Dec 2012	#43
Time to relax with a martini. I'm buying! nt	jody	Dec 2012	#44
Cheers!	Glassunion	Dec 2012	#45
Have Several, Jody. Please. (nt)	Paladin	Dec 2012	#70
Paladin, nice to hear from you. Hope all is well with you in Texas and peace be with you and yours.	jody	Dec 2012	#75
Same To You, Jody. (nt)	Paladin	Dec 2012	#86
the National Review is in support of eliminating the second amendment	samsingh	Dec 2012	#19
I remember wanting to risk terrorist acts to keep civil liberties.	MrSlayer	Dec 2012	#20
I don't think they are the same.	white_wolf	Dec 2012	#25
The logic is the same, though. Regardless, the Bill of Rights is a foundation of this Republic.	Selatius	Dec 2012	#28
Wow.... Hadn't thought of that. Thanks for putting that out there for me to think about	Dems to Win	Dec 2012	#61
It's a right guaranteed in the Constituion.	MrSlayer	Dec 2012	#30
You introduce "freedoms . . . fundamental to a democratic and free society". Did the authors of our	jody	Dec 2012	#46
I'm not speaking purely from a legal perspective here.	white_wolf	Dec 2012	#54
Agree but when one considers the history of rights, philosophers always place right to defend self at	jody	Dec 2012	#57
well, that's easy to say if you don't live in NYC. i think the security thing is overdone in the	bettyellen	Dec 2012	#66
I live in Philly.	MrSlayer	Dec 2012	#67
i don't know anyone who really minds the airport screenings in NYC. but we have been targeted	bettyellen	Dec 2012	#68
It's Bagger logic.	MrSlayer	Dec 2012	#69
no, it comes from real life experience. we smelled the WTC burning through the Christmas holidays	bettyellen	Dec 2012	#89
It's not the ten minutes in the airport.	MrSlayer	Dec 2012	#90
i agree the spying, the warentless wiretapping, the email invasion, the torture, the indefinite	bettyellen	Dec 2012	#91
No, murder can not be prevented 100% of the time. Even mass murders.	Honeycombe8	Dec 2012	#21
Yeah, the inability to do everything is not an excuse to do nothing	Recursion	Dec 2012	#34
Which is why 2nd Amendment should be repealed	Pretzel_Warrior	Dec 2012	#39
Do you facebook? Check out this page, "Repeal the Second Amendment"	Dems to Win	Dec 2012	#47
and the first amendment should be strengthened...	sanatanadharma	Dec 2012	#48
If 2A were repealed, RKBA would be protected as an unenumerated right by the Ninth Amendment. nt	jody	Dec 2012	#49
When the second amendment is repealed, I shall see you in court.Deadly weapons are not a human right	Dems to Win	Dec 2012	#52
Please read DC v Heller and McDonald v Chicago on RKBA protected by our Constitution. nt	jody	Dec 2012	#53
There you go, so don't even try! 20 dead completely innocent children	rustydog	Dec 2012	#51
Please don't misinterpret my posting of this article. Go ahead and work in the way you deem most	Dems to Win	Dec 2012	#60
excellent, thanks for posting.	Voice for Peace	Dec 2012	#59
They also said the shooter was successful because there wasn't any big man to save them.	Lone_Star_Dem	Dec 2012	#64
This Thread Serves As Confirmation Of What We Already Knew:	Paladin	Dec 2012	#72
Repeal the 2nd amendment and ditch the electoral college	librechik	Dec 2012	#73
2A is whatever you want it to be.	moondust	Dec 2012	#77
The Second Amendment can indeed be repealed	treestar	Dec 2012	#78
Please sign the petition to repeal the second amendment, see my sig	Dems to Win	Dec 2012	#83
Tried to	treestar	Dec 2012	#93
Chill the fuck out, National Review. Barack's got this one.	Bucky	Dec 2012	#85
Does anyone really think the National Review is even relevant anymore?	smirkymonkey	Dec 2012	#87
I am shocked, shocked...	truebluegreen	Dec 2012	#88

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