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MrModerate

(9,753 posts)
34. The focus now is on weapons of mass mayhem . . .
Thu Dec 20, 2012, 02:16 AM
Dec 2012

And accessories: automatic and semiautomatic rifles (and perhaps pistols) and high-capacity magazines. Things for which civilians have no reasonable need but which are really effective killing machines in the hands of crazy people.

Looking to the future, we could mandate reregistering every legally-held firearm in the US (not including those deemed nonregistrable) and, after a given date, any other firearm would become flatly illegal and subject to immediate seizure and destruction. Eliminate private sales (only from federally license outlets) and put deliberately crippling regulations on firearms manufacturers to turn off the tap of new guns. This would allow the law-abiding to keep their weapons while gradually drying up illegal supply.

Personally, I'd go farther, but the above would be a great leap forward and might even be politically plausible.

It doesn't.. letemrot Dec 2012 #1
About 170,000 guns are stolen every year from homes... Flabbergasted Dec 2012 #17
How many of those are recovered? letemrot Dec 2012 #21
I'm not sure I agree with the premise of the op... Flabbergasted Dec 2012 #28
Not sure where MAIG got that number from. Accoring to the DOJ the number is just over 170,000. Glassunion Dec 2012 #35
Perhaps they are estimating unreported thefts or not? Flabbergasted Dec 2012 #38
The unreported thefts of firearms is low when compared to burgluries when a firearm was not stolen. Glassunion Dec 2012 #41
I'm going to edit my post thanks. Nt Flabbergasted Dec 2012 #47
Someone posted stats earlier Mojorabbit Dec 2012 #51
Most mass murders are also suicides. Maybe you've hit the nail on the head. dkf Dec 2012 #98
And the Australian experience of gun control intaglio Dec 2012 #53
Snopes has a write up on it. It is a little complicated Mojorabbit Dec 2012 #60
Yup intaglio Dec 2012 #61
tell it to the dead children, that'll be great comfort. spanone Dec 2012 #82
Ok.. letemrot Dec 2012 #83
Is not being able to own a certain type of gun a fair trade for 20 kids' lives? The Velveteen Ocelot Dec 2012 #2
My thoughts exactly loyalsister Dec 2012 #72
Don't worry, you can still have your guns BeyondGeography Dec 2012 #3
All good points. xoom Dec 2012 #4
Some posit that Mass Shooting are, in fact, suicide by gun. Akin to suicide bombers. KittyWampus Dec 2012 #42
Yes. Suicides by gun account for more deaths than homicides by guns. nt DeschutesRiver Dec 2012 #59
56% letemrot Dec 2012 #75
In another thread, the suicide stats were 62% of all annual gun deaths DeschutesRiver Dec 2012 #84
Thanks for the info letemrot Dec 2012 #97
Here are links to the thread and article if you hadn't found it yet; my dialup DeschutesRiver Dec 2012 #114
The point isn't to stop the violence... a geek named Bob Dec 2012 #5
K&R Whovian Dec 2012 #6
Less guns. It's simple. Bonobo Dec 2012 #7
You think? letemrot Dec 2012 #13
Could you be more specific? Bonobo Dec 2012 #15
Violent crimes will go down letemrot Dec 2012 #22
Do you agree that guns would be more expensive as they become more rare? Bonobo Dec 2012 #23
I think guns would be incredibly letemrot Dec 2012 #24
So a meth addict that doesn't have $100 to spend would have more trouble getting them. Bonobo Dec 2012 #26
A meth addict would probably B&E to get what letemrot Dec 2012 #29
Yeah he would do B&E without a gun. That's my point. Bonobo Dec 2012 #30
Depends on ROI for the gun letemrot Dec 2012 #31
I think that at this point, YOU are relying more on crazy assumptions than I am. Bonobo Dec 2012 #33
To an extent we're saying the same thing letemrot Dec 2012 #39
Let me rethink that.. letemrot Dec 2012 #43
so the actual experience of other countries does not interest you? intaglio Dec 2012 #57
Australia and the United Kingdom are not the United States letemrot Dec 2012 #71
So, as they say, what? intaglio Dec 2012 #74
I guess you didn't read the links letemrot Dec 2012 #76
I've read them, perhaps you didn't read my post intaglio Dec 2012 #77
So you willing to curtail rights enumerated in the Constitution letemrot Dec 2012 #79
That's up to the USA intaglio Dec 2012 #80
"laws made for muskets" letemrot Dec 2012 #81
Cutting edge muskets - Bull-Shot! intaglio Dec 2012 #86
Oh.. letemrot Dec 2012 #87
Can you actually read? intaglio Dec 2012 #88
Ok letemrot Dec 2012 #89
No, you are asking me to justify these ridiculous views intaglio Dec 2012 #91
Oh look over there .. letemrot Dec 2012 #93
I love you when you get angry intaglio Dec 2012 #94
Sigh.. letemrot Dec 2012 #95
Nope, comparing an biblical right with a right in the Constitution intaglio Dec 2012 #105
Rifles, Pistols, are personal weapons which can be transported letemrot Dec 2012 #106
Grenades, shoulder launched missiles, chain guns intaglio Dec 2012 #113
Find out what happened in Australia intaglio Dec 2012 #55
Very little.. letemrot Dec 2012 #96
Yup a year on year decrease in gun crime is nothing intaglio Dec 2012 #99
except that decrease letemrot Dec 2012 #100
Why have any laws at all? MrSlayer Dec 2012 #8
It doesn't. It's mainly aimed at those who want to mass kill....assault weapons, big count mags, Honeycombe8 Dec 2012 #9
Great Britian's gun crime rate went up after their laws went into place Mojorabbit Dec 2012 #52
Illegal guns start out as legal guns jeff47 Dec 2012 #10
I think full autos are not used because they cost a fortune and you need an FBI check Mojorabbit Dec 2012 #58
Do you have stats for this....? Flabbergasted Dec 2012 #11
That's a pretty reasonable assumption RZM Dec 2012 #14
The FBI released a report stating that roughly 80% of all violent crime is gang/drug related. Glassunion Dec 2012 #37
Is this the source...it doesn't specify violent crime... Flabbergasted Dec 2012 #40
No I read the actual report from the FBI. Glassunion Dec 2012 #46
Ok thanks. Flabbergasted Dec 2012 #50
300 million guns in the US. Are we safe yet? neverforget Dec 2012 #12
"Law abiding" citizens do not need AK 47 or high capacity magazines or other weapons that can kill rustydog Dec 2012 #16
I think legislation aimed to end mass murders, even using your "safe" number, well wroth it. morningfog Dec 2012 #18
Oh, well, that makes it all right then. Aristus Dec 2012 #19
Are there statitics on how many of the legally owned weapons... cynatnite Dec 2012 #20
there should be a buy-back program for any and all kinds of firearms. cvoogt Dec 2012 #25
Everyone should have a gun to hug, but not many more, not in public, Hoyt Dec 2012 #27
A real effort that will make a difference is what banning assault weapons would be bhikkhu Dec 2012 #32
The focus now is on weapons of mass mayhem . . . MrModerate Dec 2012 #34
American homes are the criminal's Wal-Mart: the place to go to get their lethal weapons Dems to Win Dec 2012 #36
Way to ignore our unacceptably high level of domestic violence and the role of guns: ellisonz Dec 2012 #44
Law abiding gun owners sometimes have psycotic breaks, becoming lethally dangerous crazed killers Dems to Win Dec 2012 #45
Chuck away the idea of "law-abiding citizen" and "criminal". sibelian Dec 2012 #48
Why do countires with less guns have less gun violence? RedCappedBandit Dec 2012 #49
Hush - you're making too much sense GCP Dec 2012 #62
+1. Less guns means less gun violence. nt riderinthestorm Dec 2012 #112
That is why we need to reframe the gun as a terror item, and ban it in the streets 100% graham4anything Dec 2012 #54
Good luck using facts and logic, HooptieWagon Dec 2012 #56
Some statistics GCP Dec 2012 #63
Easy answer if you know where the majority of illegal firearms come from. Glassunion Dec 2012 #64
Apparently, the OP is NOT willing to have an adult conversation on this. Post and run. Dems to Win Dec 2012 #66
The OP may be busy outside of DU, especially this time of year. Skip Intro Dec 2012 #108
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No, the overwhelming majority of gun violence is NOT drug deals, gangs, or robberies mainer Dec 2012 #67
Well when we get the guns out of hands like yours Savannahmann Dec 2012 #68
Prohibiting the sale of guns and especially ammunition would be an excellent start. bowens43 Dec 2012 #69
Sadly, the US Supreme Court and the Constitution says Americans do have a constitutional right to Dems to Win Dec 2012 #70
Good luck with that n/t letemrot Dec 2012 #73
Well, seems to me what needs to be done is to address questions like this one head-on. calimary Dec 2012 #78
K&R! Fire Walk With Me Dec 2012 #85
"The majority of gun violence in the US is in drug deals gone bad, in home invasions, [...]" tledford Dec 2012 #90
+1000 ellisonz Dec 2012 #92
Nailed it. Thanks. n/t VOX Dec 2012 #103
Dont be dishonest. The OP explicitly refers to homicide. Some relevant stats: Skip Intro Dec 2012 #107
Depends on the restriction. What specific restriction are you referring to? merrily Dec 2012 #101
I'll be honest, too. Whenever a poster specifies that his or her question is "honest," it usually merrily Dec 2012 #102
The extremes move with the middle, Skip jberryhill Dec 2012 #104
excellent and insightful reasoning CreekDog Dec 2012 #111
Too Many Guns Are Unaccounted For JSwaggert Dec 2012 #109
Take it to the gungeon. morningfog Dec 2012 #115
NRA propaganda. You shoud be ashamed. morningfog Dec 2012 #116
Actually half are suicides BainsBane Dec 2012 #117
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