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Lizzie Poppet

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11. Mass shootings? No, at least not often.

Wed Dec 19, 2012, 02:32 PM

Dec 2012

Then again, mass shootings don't happen often, either...not compared to the thousands and thousands of "conventional" homicides every year. Yet somehow the former are supposed to be the impetus for sweeping public policy change. It doesn't really make any rational sense, but emotional reactions seldom do. These are legitimately emotional times, following such an appalling tragedy, so it's not hard to understand why coolly rational threat prioritization isn't occurring. That is why some people say "now is not the time" to be making such policy decisions.

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Do Armed Civilians Stop Mass Shooters? Actually, No. [View all] Pale Blue Dot Dec 2012 OP

Conservative 'solutions' don't prevent anything. louis-t Dec 2012 #1

Reservists and off-duty cops were kind of the point, I thought Recursion Dec 2012 #2

Only the last case cited has merit...IF you discount the shooter got the shots off rustydog Dec 2012 #3

And yet each of these lies has been repeated, over and over, in the Gungeon, ThatPoetGuy Dec 2012 #4

The gungeon bongbong Dec 2012 #22

That group should be banned. Zoeisright Dec 2012 #24

Have you heard bongbong Dec 2012 #34

Doesn't surprise me one bit Hugabear Dec 2012 #54

In the cited to stories ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2012 #5

You are trying to have it both ways. former9thward Dec 2012 #6

Most of the cases cited TheMoreYouKnow Dec 2012 #7

And yet you conveniently ignored that people did have guns at these places... joeybee12 Dec 2012 #17

The unanswered question is if civilian ownership of firearms for self defense saves lives overall ProgressiveProfessor Dec 2012 #8

LOL bongbong Dec 2012 #23

Given That Fire-Arm Suicides Out-Number Fire-Arm Murders, Sir The Magistrate Dec 2012 #27

Why these days I call them NRA anecdotes nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #9

It can be debated in these cases sarisataka Dec 2012 #10

Mass shootings? No, at least not often. Lizzie Poppet Dec 2012 #11

so one or maybe a couple of examples placed against 30,000 yearly gun deaths librechik Dec 2012 #12

With 300 million guns in the country TheMoreYouKnow Dec 2012 #14

I guess you know the answer to that--almost NONE were justified. librechik Dec 2012 #15

The OP is about stopping TheMoreYouKnow Dec 2012 #16

12 posts and we're supposed to believe your story? joeybee12 Dec 2012 #18

I guess that means you don't want to answer my question either TheMoreYouKnow Dec 2012 #19

I believe the correct answer is "heartbreakingly few." But you tell me how many librechik Dec 2012 #26

So you have no facts at all, just TheMoreYouKnow Dec 2012 #29

so you refuse to answer your own question. What is YOUR number of justifiable deaths? librechik Dec 2012 #31

Five In Eight of Them Are Suicides, Fella The Magistrate Dec 2012 #33

Only enough to protect my life TheMoreYouKnow Dec 2012 #37

And You Face Such Danger With Such Grace And Calm, Sir The Magistrate Dec 2012 #39

When life becomes a fairy tale I'll treat it like one TheMoreYouKnow Dec 2012 #43

Damn, Fella, You Are A Funny One.... The Magistrate Dec 2012 #46

I can't help but feel sorry for you Hoss TheMoreYouKnow Dec 2012 #48

Feel Free To Keep Trying To Amuse Me, Sweet-Heart The Magistrate Dec 2012 #49

Sugar britches if my comments thus far have intimidated you enough TheMoreYouKnow Dec 2012 #52

Thank You For The Laugh, Fella: You Are A Pearl Beyond Price, Indeed You Are The Magistrate Dec 2012 #53

Now You be Sure And Have Something Fresh Waiting For When I Get Back From the Store, Fella The Magistrate Dec 2012 #55

So Disappointed, Sweetie; Perhaps You Can Have Something More When The Meat-Loaf Is Done? The Magistrate Dec 2012 #57

ok. You killed somebody to protect your family? librechik Dec 2012 #20

I didn't throw out the number TheMoreYouKnow Dec 2012 #21

actually that's a ball park figure journalists have been using librechik Dec 2012 #30

Of Course You Were, Sweet-Heart.... The Magistrate Dec 2012 #28

i killed a man once just for snoring too loud frylock Dec 2012 #36

You're conflating mass shootings with all gun homicides, including suicides. Lizzie Poppet Dec 2012 #32

easy access to a reliable method of death. librechik Dec 2012 #40

I don't disagree... Lizzie Poppet Dec 2012 #41

agree-and mental health assistance must be easy to access too librechik Dec 2012 #44

Yes! Lizzie Poppet Dec 2012 #45

absolutely! librechik Dec 2012 #47

It Is Really Not That Difficult, Ma'am The Magistrate Dec 2012 #42

I guess a lot of it is being at the right place at the right time... OneMoreDemocrat Dec 2012 #13

What is the hardest to say, is that there is a lot of fate involved. libdem4life Dec 2012 #35

The Delicate Flowers are back to their normal gun BS bongbong Dec 2012 #25

Training Training Training bpj62 Dec 2012 #38

After reading this article for a third time I'm impressed TheMoreYouKnow Dec 2012 #50

There is only one shooting spree that was stopped by a civilian Drale Dec 2012 #51

NRA new movie, "Escape from Elementary School" Pryderi Dec 2012 #56

Jeanne Assam was a hero obamanut2012 Dec 2012 #58