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Doctor_J

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15. Sad but true

Wed Dec 19, 2012, 01:03 PM

Dec 2012

My impassioned OP in favor of Obama posted in the 2008 Primaries forum is no longer accessible unfortunately. It got about 50 rec's - outlined that while I thought Hillary would be a perfectly good candidate, and president, I truly believed that Obama would be transformative - a leader in taking the country back from the Reagan/Bush pigs. I swallowed the hook, line, and sinker. My radar went up when he didn't pardon Rove's political prisoner, Don Siegelmann, on 1/21/2009.

the defining image of the presidency will be of him pissing on the collective grave of FDR, JFK, LBJ, and Carter while dreaming fondly of Ronald Reagan.

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Can We Please Stop Pretending Obama is “Capitulating” on Social Security? [View all] Segami Dec 2012 OP

Fuck Jane Hamsher... SidDithers Dec 2012 #1

Why? R. Daneel Olivaw Dec 2012 #12

Jane and Grover sitting in a tree K I S S I N G jpak Dec 2012 #22

huh? progressoid Dec 2012 #26

Jane and Norquist formed a deal many years ago...She's one of those progressives who try to take him ray of light Dec 2012 #45

Oh, Kind of like "Fuck Chuck Schumer" progressoid Dec 2012 #64

Whatever... They claim to be progressive but they sleep with Norquist (metaphorically) ray of light Dec 2012 #69

Tell you what. Let Sid answer if he will. R. Daneel Olivaw Dec 2012 #51

And we all know he'll bullshit his way out of this. Panasonic Dec 2012 #78

'Cause Jane referred to ardent Obama supporters as "the dumbest motherfuckers in the world"... SidDithers Dec 2012 #62

She's got the fringe left fooled that she's some sort of progressive. R. Daneel Olivaw Dec 2012 #63

Alright. I made a good faith effort to answer... SidDithers Dec 2012 #67

I was being serious. R. Daneel Olivaw Dec 2012 #76

"Dyed red or pink"? aquart Dec 2012 #77

Hmmm. Oh, I just LOVE purge-passionate purists. R. Daneel Olivaw Dec 2012 #79

I heartily agree with this sentiment! NYC Liberal Dec 2012 #24

and if shr is right .... whst then roguevalley Dec 2012 #47

And if Fox News is right about something ... what then? NYC Liberal Dec 2012 #59

who does. roguevalley Dec 2012 #81

If you don't know who Pete Peterson is, please Google his name. JDPriestly Dec 2012 #49

That's obnoxious, Sid. leveymg Dec 2012 #52

I'm wounded that you feel that way... SidDithers Dec 2012 #56

I saw that little sneer when you said that, Sid. leveymg Dec 2012 #74

Nice contribution to the conversation. Too bad she was right. A Simple Game Dec 2012 #58

Funny. Attack FDL but not the content of what was said. donheld Dec 2012 #82

Indeed. This is something the political/business establishment has been Marr Dec 2012 #2

+1 Voters destroyed the GOP in 2006 & 2008 leftstreet Dec 2012 #3

Reverse psychology - He played Democratic voters like a violin arjazz Dec 2012 #8

And restored them to power in 2010, for whatever insane reason. MH1 Dec 2012 #32

The cliff was the best deal JEB Dec 2012 #66

yes but hen the voters stayed home in 2010 - leading to all those republicans that are now trying leftyohiolib Dec 2012 #41

Americans like winners who act like they won Fumesucker Dec 2012 #57

not to mention the FICA cuts.....now, for first time in history, it is true to say that Social Secur amborin Dec 2012 #4

The FICA cuts, cuts in payroll taxes that support Social Security and Medicare, are the giveaway JDPriestly Dec 2012 #50

"adding to the deficit" = repaying part of the money borrowed from SS. The 1983 SS amendments HiPointDem Dec 2012 #73

This is the bottom line...............nft plethoro Dec 2012 #5

I always DESPISED FDL RomneyLies Dec 2012 #6

Who wanted to see a truth this ugly? Hydra Dec 2012 #71

It was very well planned and thought out from the get go arjazz Dec 2012 #7

Yes, this administration has been corporatist from Day One. woo me with science Dec 2012 #9

+100 RC Dec 2012 #13

+1000 Segami Dec 2012 #14

+1 forestpath Dec 2012 #17

+1 and look at the choices made available to us. We have a binary system of 0/0. n/t Egalitarian Thug Dec 2012 #75

Where am I reading this thread? Isoldeblue Dec 2012 #10

Why would Heritage complain? this was their plan. Doctor_J Dec 2012 #16

how can you say that think_critically Dec 2012 #35

Just a few minor corrections. ieoeja Dec 2012 #60

+1 ^this^ progressoid Dec 2012 #65

"gets us towards universal health care " ??? bvar22 Dec 2012 #61

I agree with you! denvine Dec 2012 #42

Agreed brush Dec 2012 #46

and we thought the president was a democrat, we thought ss was off the table seems like the only leftyohiolib Dec 2012 #43

Good cop/bad cop, or "the unreasonable partner"... Romulox Dec 2012 #11

Sad but true Doctor_J Dec 2012 #15

A lot of people were snowed. woo me with science Dec 2012 #18

They are Masters of their craft. Segami Dec 2012 #19

Marketing woo me with science Dec 2012 #23

Election night 2008 was the closest I have come to tearing up Doctor_J Dec 2012 #20

All one had to do was actually pay attention to what he said duffyduff Dec 2012 #30

Look. Obama is a great person, a wonderful father and thousands times better than Romney. JDPriestly Dec 2012 #55

Obama is not stupid. woo me with science Dec 2012 #68

His economic policies, with regard to the chained cost of living increases, his appointments of JDPriestly Dec 2012 #70

Corporate money floods Washington, both parties included. woo me with science Dec 2012 #72

Haha! FireDogLake... NYC Liberal Dec 2012 #21

well said!!!! n/t Sheepshank Dec 2012 #31

What you said. MH1 Dec 2012 #33

FDL = LOL jpak Dec 2012 #25

Hamsher, Queen of the Trolls MjolnirTime Dec 2012 #27

^^^This^^^^ truebrit71 Dec 2012 #48

Pffffttttt! Next! nt. OldDem2012 Dec 2012 #28

I never started stupidicus Dec 2012 #29

No I think all the hysteria is healthy. Ganja Ninja Dec 2012 #34

I agree. The devil will be in the final details......you know, Segami Dec 2012 #40

Jane Hamsher? Really? Trashing thread Liberal_Stalwart71 Dec 2012 #36

Who's "pretending"? MNBrewer Dec 2012 #37

Occupy? ...What's that? ...You know, Occupy! reeds2012 Dec 2012 #38

what a surprise. Jane's stink is back. Whisp Dec 2012 #39

Yep damnedifIknow Dec 2012 #44

Yup he has been more than willing to cut SS all along. craigmatic Dec 2012 #53

k&r for the truth, however depressing it may be. n/t Laelth Dec 2012 #54

DU REC +1 nt Poll_Blind Dec 2012 #80