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BlueCaliDem

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9. The National Journal is NO friend to Democrats.

Wed Dec 19, 2012, 07:35 AM

Dec 2012

Why is anything they publish - especially when it's anti-Obama - being taken seriously here?

Do you actually believe President Obama, considering his background and all he's already done for the average American (health care reform, the public option, strengthening Medicare, expanding Medicaid, expanding Pell Grants, etc.), would touch Social Security? Really?

If what you contend is what's happening (i.e. President Obama "leaking" this info in order to stir debate), shouldn't it be to whip up the American people not to criticize him, but to criticize the Republicans in the House for their petty games? I seriously doubt his plan was to have people point their arms at him instead of at Boehner where our fire rightfully belongs.

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It was the white house that leaked the details of Obama's fiscal cliff offer. Not the wingers. [View all] HiPointDem Dec 2012 OP

The Middle. dogknob Dec 2012 #1

Using us retired folk like we are collateral damage. SHAMEFUL. forestpath Dec 2012 #2

Your, um, concern, is noted. eom BlueCaliDem Dec 2012 #11

It's vile of you to mock my concern about seniors. I have never seen Democrats in my life forestpath Dec 2012 #24

Oh puh-lease! Spare me your poutrage. BlueCaliDem Dec 2012 #25

Talking points! It's what's for dinner. With a side of hot air. forestpath Dec 2012 #32

Not talking points. FACTS. BlueCaliDem Dec 2012 #34

So is, um, your snark and mockery. eom villager Dec 2012 #26

So, um, is yours. eom BlueCaliDem Dec 2012 #27

Wow. You're an even less capable conversationalist than I first dared imagine. villager Dec 2012 #33

I don't eagerly toss pearls to swines. BlueCaliDem Dec 2012 #35

You're right -- I should just stop replying to you. villager Dec 2012 #36

Any dem voting for this is not representing the people newfie11 Dec 2012 #3

Considering the high volume of anti-Obama posts and threads here these days, BlueCaliDem Dec 2012 #4

"You people"?! Hmmm, now who do you sound like.... forestpath Dec 2012 #5

A Democrat. Clear now? Whining and criticizing Obama . . . what does that sound like? BlueCaliDem Dec 2012 #7

Baggers are concerned about us retired people Obama wants to hurt? You must be delusional. forestpath Dec 2012 #8

Hyperbole much? BlueCaliDem Dec 2012 #10

DEMOCRATS don't throw seniors under the bus to get a "deal." Real Democrats that is. forestpath Dec 2012 #13

NO ONE has thrown seniors "under the bus". Not in the real world, that is. eom BlueCaliDem Dec 2012 #28

The only conceivable motive for telling the public to shut up about potential cuts to social HiPointDem Dec 2012 #16

That might be true . . . BlueCaliDem Dec 2012 #18

he doesn't come from a modest background. HiPointDem Dec 2012 #38

Actually, he does. BlueCaliDem Dec 2012 #39

no, certain facts have been publicized, others haven't so much. HiPointDem Dec 2012 #40

the white house leaked it. i guess they wanted it to be made public, which means people will HiPointDem Dec 2012 #6

The National Journal is NO friend to Democrats. BlueCaliDem Dec 2012 #9

Look, neither party lets the public in on the secret backstage kabuki. I don't know who leaked HiPointDem Dec 2012 #14

True. 100%. eom BlueCaliDem Dec 2012 #19

I bet GOP Members of Congress are getting a ton of calls and emails, too.... OldDem2012 Dec 2012 #30

Bingo Champion Jack Dec 2012 #53

Maybe Obama should stop acting like a Republican? Chan790 Dec 2012 #12

I seriously doubt he could do anything to "represent you". He's not pure enough, BlueCaliDem Dec 2012 #22

Dont make this about Pres Obama. It's about saving SS and Medicare. rhett o rick Dec 2012 #17

Hey Rhett . . . whose rhetoric are you spewing now? BlueCaliDem Dec 2012 #23

That can't be true! I know this because other DU posters are saying the President is a traitor to... OldDem2012 Dec 2012 #31

I didnt say a word bad about the president. Your attempts to make this about hating Obama rhett o rick Dec 2012 #37

I doubt the president is going to "touch" social security unless it's to raise BlueCaliDem Dec 2012 #41

I sure hope you are correct. I hate just waiting to see where this will go rhett o rick Dec 2012 #42

Here's a link BlueCaliDem Dec 2012 #46

I read the article. Thanks for the link. But it sounds too good to be true. rhett o rick Dec 2012 #49

Here is an alternate view and not from "liberals". See link in message. rhett o rick Dec 2012 #50

I have canceled my subscription to The Nation be*cause* of their misrepresenting BlueCaliDem Dec 2012 #54

So that's the discussion. Now we are talking about how you dont trust The Nation? rhett o rick Dec 2012 #55

I always, always consider the source. BlueCaliDem Dec 2012 #56

Cant argue with logic like that. nm rhett o rick Dec 2012 #58

Wow you are just fighting a wave of Obama haters.. SomethingFishy Dec 2012 #43

If someone has to resort to calling names like "Obama hater", then they obvioulsly dont have rhett o rick Dec 2012 #52

I believe all leaders should be kept under a microscope. madfloridian Dec 2012 #47

I've been hearing/reading the same scaremongering before the election BlueCaliDem Dec 2012 #48

Exactly. The proposal is out there and we need to voice our opposition. reformist2 Dec 2012 #15

yeah. That's how trial balloons work. librechik Dec 2012 #20

Exactly. A baloon is floated and if it doesn't go down in flames it is adopted. n/t PoliticAverse Dec 2012 #29

"Trial balloon"... nt Romulox Dec 2012 #21

This could actually be one big chess move from Obama. No joke. Cali_Democrat Dec 2012 #44

maybe. in that case having people riled up about the possible cuts just strengthens his hand. HiPointDem Dec 2012 #45

It's Whack-A-Mole - moles being the 99% MotherPetrie Dec 2012 #51

That's been my theory for a few days democrattotheend Dec 2012 #57

That's ProSense Dec 2012 #59

k/r limpyhobbler Dec 2012 #60