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dawg

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42. Regular bad ideas we can tolerate.

Wed Dec 19, 2012, 02:00 AM

Dec 2012

This one is unacceptable.

We've already offered billions in spending cuts. That's enough "stupid" for now. No need to compound the stupid by cutting our already-shabby safety net and soiling our political brand in the process.

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Switching to a Chained CPI for Social Security reduces the general fund deficit by ... [View all] dawg Dec 2012 OP

Nancy Pelosi says you're out of your mind BeyondGeography Dec 2012 #1

Oh sure, "soften" the blow. But that means there's a blow to soften, doesn't it? dawg Dec 2012 #2

Under the bus with her! BeyondGeography Dec 2012 #4

Then why fuck with SS at all? MotherPetrie Dec 2012 #7

Exactly newfie11 Dec 2012 #8

Well we soon find out John2 Dec 2012 #43

Nancy Pelosi said Social Security was off the table dflprincess Dec 2012 #27

Oh that was 24 hours ago. How long do you expect a person to keep their word? BlueStreak Dec 2012 #30

We should probably be thankful she held out that long. n/t dflprincess Dec 2012 #36

yep, ZERO - big fat fuckin' ZERO kath Dec 2012 #3

The frustating thing is Canuckistanian Dec 2012 #5

That's the best remark I've seen here all day. Jackpine Radical Dec 2012 #6

Any discussion about Social Security is a distraction. SS may go in the red in 20 years???? Fuck, rhett o rick Dec 2012 #9

Only because they keep two sets of books. banned from Kos Dec 2012 #10

No. You are wrong. The General Fund pays interest on it's own debts, some of which are owed to the dawg Dec 2012 #11

No, the SS Trust Fund earns a coupon (interest) beyond its contributions collected. banned from Kos Dec 2012 #14

Let's do a little thought exercise here. Be paitient with me. dawg Dec 2012 #15

OK, by that logic (and it is logical) the SS Trust Fund could obtain a banned from Kos Dec 2012 #18

Well, not unless the general fund also ran $30 trillion in deficits. dawg Dec 2012 #21

There will always be enough Treasuries to buy since SS HAS to buy Treasuries banned from Kos Dec 2012 #23

If the general fund did not run a deficit, no net new treasuries would ever be issued. dawg Dec 2012 #28

That is not quite true. The general fund ran a surplus 1999-2000 banned from Kos Dec 2012 #29

I believe you're misunderstanding me slightly. dawg Dec 2012 #34

debt reduction reteachinwi Dec 2012 #35

You just said in one line what I took paragraphs to say. dawg Dec 2012 #38

Our government borrows money and pays interest. TheProgressive Dec 2012 #12

There are two sets of books because that is exactly how it is. TheKentuckian Dec 2012 #20

Because of inter-dependency. See above. banned from Kos Dec 2012 #26

Thank you. A voice of reason. JDPriestly Dec 2012 #13

Well, I need to change my name to "John". dawg Dec 2012 #17

Gouging senior citizens is price of getting a deal Teamster Jeff Dec 2012 #16

Why does ANY deal with the republicans have to contain some form of cutting Social Security?? bluethruandthru Dec 2012 #19

The worse part is that we aren't even coming off as reluctant. dawg Dec 2012 #22

You're right. That's why I can't figure out why our so-called democratic leaders bluethruandthru Dec 2012 #25

That is because John2 Dec 2012 #31

Long term reteachinwi Dec 2012 #32

For all we know, the system may already be solvent now. dawg Dec 2012 #37

Raising the cap reteachinwi Dec 2012 #39

Agreed. dawg Dec 2012 #41

There will actaully be a reduction in spending of descretionary spending. joeunderdog Dec 2012 #24

What makes you think these "Democrats" want to preserve SS? blkmusclmachine Dec 2012 #33

Well yeah.... it's a concession to republicans. FreeBC Dec 2012 #40

Regular bad ideas we can tolerate. dawg Dec 2012 #42

Yep. Putting ss on the fiscal table JEB Dec 2012 #44

They really should be looking at Medicare. That is a much bigger problem with direct impact on dkf Dec 2012 #45

They should be looking to make cuts to the bloated, corrupt, lardass Defense Dept. JEB Dec 2012 #46

Medicare, Medicaid and Defense are the three budget-busters. dawg Dec 2012 #47

Exactly. No other health system is as expensive as ours. dkf Dec 2012 #48

Is it considered self-abuse ... dawg Dec 2012 #49