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In reply to the discussion: I did the right thing today for home protection, I purchased a [View all]spin
(17,493 posts)79. Since I live in an urban environment just as you do I agree. ...
However if I lived in a rural environment I might chose to own an assault style rifle for self defense or hog hunting. In all probability I would chose a lever action rifle because they are less expensive.
Assault style rifles such as the AR-15 are used for hunting despite what the media would have you believe. No, you don't hunt deer with a 20, 30, or 100 round magazine as most states have a limit on the size of the magazine that you can have in your weapon while hunting. Also assault style weapons are widely used in competitive shooting.
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I'm not for outdoor lighting. All those carbon emissions and fairly ineffective
FarCenter
Dec 2012
#22
No, when the lights were out after Sandy there was very little movement of people or crime at night.
FarCenter
Dec 2012
#58
It's been shown that outdoor lighting is a deterrent to crime. Criminals like the dark.
Honeycombe8
Dec 2012
#158
A shotgun has wide area coverage. It is perfect in my view because you are sure to hit an
bluestate10
Dec 2012
#54
Using as an example an unchoked scatter to belittle a persons coice of weapon
intaglio
Dec 2012
#128
The context was a claim that shotgun pattern is wide enough at household ranges to insure hitting
ProgressiveProfessor
Dec 2012
#129
At close enough ranges you get unburned powder and the wad in the wound
ProgressiveProfessor
Dec 2012
#167
If they are close enough to hear it, you are in a bad tactical situation
ProgressiveProfessor
Dec 2012
#77
If someone is trying to get in your front door and you load a round in a pump shotgun..
bamacrat
Dec 2012
#199
I don't think pumping 15 rounds into an intruder is going to look good at trial :-)
crazyjoe
Dec 2012
#162
yeah...but it beats his story of you asking him to come in to help you move your TV at 3AM
WVMountaineers
Dec 2012
#163
Really depends on the circumstances...locking on the trigger is not unknown under stress
ProgressiveProfessor
Dec 2012
#170
To each their own, but the opinion is nearly universal among instructors for both beginners
ProgressiveProfessor
Dec 2012
#159
Actually ANY firearm, in the hands of a person who knows it well and practices
WVMountaineers
Dec 2012
#155
I have actually been looking for a high quality audio file of just that sound.
Jamastiene
Dec 2012
#116
I got a dog! She won't let anyone in the house. Scares them off before they even get to the door.
Auntie Bush
Dec 2012
#173
I caught total hell and am still being bullied and stalked for posting nearly the same thing.
NYC_SKP
Dec 2012
#4
I thought I might catch some flack, I don't care. I feel if a person wants to keep
crazyjoe
Dec 2012
#133
The unmistakeable sound of a shell being chambered in a pump action is usually all you need
FarCenter
Dec 2012
#6
Well put Lurker Deluxe. (cool name BTW) I got a bunch of nasty childish comments on this post,
crazyjoe
Dec 2012
#134
Ever go to start the car in the morning and stare face to face with a coyote that's growling?
RomneyLies
Dec 2012
#30
I was moderately concerned about the coyotes that share my woods because that's
hedgehog
Dec 2012
#34
Bright idea. In a dark home you want to carry something that will reflect any available light to
Whovian
Dec 2012
#16
Gee, the use of the word DUmmy in this post makes wonder wher you might hale from.
Whovian
Dec 2012
#140
No, you did not do the right thing. Your home is now quantifiably less secure than before.
baldguy
Dec 2012
#27
Thanks for disagreeing without all the childish comments I see in other posts.
crazyjoe
Dec 2012
#141
My thought was the projectiles would be greatly slowed if not stopped by a wall, so it
crazyjoe
Dec 2012
#144
I agree of course buckshot will penetrate drywall, probably like it isn't even there.
crazyjoe
Dec 2012
#197
You guys are fucking dangerous. 7 1/2 birdshot will penetrate at least 4 sheets of interior drywall
The Link
Dec 2012
#63
Its easy enough to determine...build some test boxes. It might surprise you, it did me.
ProgressiveProfessor
Dec 2012
#88
At 15 feet, a 12 gauge full choke #6 load blows a large hole through a 2 x 8
FarCenter
Dec 2012
#109
With a .22, skunks will spray before they die; there is less chance of spraying with a 12 gauge.
FarCenter
Dec 2012
#189
Home defense barrels are open cylinder bore to have maximum spread
ProgressiveProfessor
Dec 2012
#87
oh please, drama much? Not only did you not ignore my post, you participated!!
crazyjoe
Dec 2012
#147
it was a guess, I really have no idea. All I know is there powerful and the bullet can travel
crazyjoe
Dec 2012
#146
Shotguns are effective for dealing with home invasions. They are easy to load and simple to shoot.
bluestate10
Dec 2012
#53
"good choice " but forget the pistol grip unless it has a stock attached behind it.
former-republican
Dec 2012
#172
agreed, the guy at the store said you can injure your hand using the pistol grip.
crazyjoe
Dec 2012
#195
No! No! You want the Official Red Ryder Carbine-Action Two-Hundred-Shot Range Model Air Rifle!
VOX
Dec 2012
#67
I'm sorry about your cousin, that sucks. I asked about non-lethal projectiles in the store when
crazyjoe
Dec 2012
#152
If I ever wind up living out in the country with no street lights or close neighbors,
kestrel91316
Dec 2012
#73
I traded in two older guns I had for this one, (plus a little money), so I actually have less
crazyjoe
Dec 2012
#153
A few months ago Dad and I found a bullet hole in the side of his house. They painted a couple years
Erose999
Dec 2012
#108
I hope and pray I never have to use it. I would rather have a gun and not need it,
crazyjoe
Dec 2012
#130
Why are you so mad and unhappy? has the world not givin you a fair shake? Try to cheer up,
crazyjoe
Dec 2012
#156
I too did the right thing for home protection and gave my doorman his holiday tip.
TheOther95Percent
Dec 2012
#126
hey, we can't all afford to live in a building that has a doorman! Are you a %1er ?
crazyjoe
Dec 2012
#161