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downandoutnow

(56 posts)
30. "SCI-FI/Fantasy is telling. It is properly termed "adult fantasy", and your improper classification"
Tue Dec 18, 2012, 10:42 PM
Dec 2012

"...the fact you call the sequence I've related here SCI-FI/Fantasy is telling. It is properly termed "adult fantasy", and your improper classification tells me you don't know what you're talking about.."

Nonsense! Embarrassing nonsense! First, a speedy Googling alleges that the books you're referring to are "epic fantasy":

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Temple_of_the_Winds

Some professor has a site up about fantasy - again, one of the first Google hits - under fantasy subgenres, this "adult fantasy" doesn't appear, although allegedly there are Contemporary, Dark, Heroic and High varieties:

http://www.nvcc.edu/home/ataormina/beyond/subjects/fantasysubgenres/index.html

How about Wiki's list of fantasy subgenres? Not there either, although "Young Adult Fantasy" does make an appearance:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Fantasy_genres

But this matters not at all. --- "It is properly termed 'adult fantasy'" you snort, as though I mistook a symphony for a concerto, or a Cezanne from a Renoir, as though particular knowledge about subgenres of contemporary pulp fiction is de rigeur for the well-rounded, fully-educated person of discernment.

It is to laugh! I'll have to admit, my education has grievous holes: I'm not particularly up on the difference between furries and plushies either. Or the variations of dubstep.

But then, maybe I'm not missing much --

"Again, no video game would ever touch this part of this story, mostly because of people such as yourself, who would never allow a game in which a man and man woman who are dearly beloved to each other to be forced into marrying other people, and then consummating that marriage then and there in order to stop a plague that would kill millions. They do: the man and woman beloved are paired to each other, but someone switched them, so they're together, but the woman imagines it being the other man, and in so doing, betrays her true beloved, thus opening the way to the Hall of the Betrayed and allowing her true love to stop the plague."


What juvenile, melodramatic rot.

Finally, I have to admit that though I guess I'm not missing much, I'm still kind of missing your point. I know that videogames generally these days are little more than every variety of gory murder obsessively repeated. So you're complaining that this constant gore isn't supported by the kind of turgid melodramatic backstory you find in certain fantasy books? Because we anti-gamers have prevented it? I'm sure if some game-maker wanted to serve his violence on a bed of fantasy (sorry, sorry! "Adult" fantasy) he would be able to do so.

Where's the beef?
. RomneyLies Dec 2012 #1
Darken Rahl is familiar to me, not the game. Cleita Dec 2012 #2
Exactly. The fact is, those who are pissing and moaning about video games Occulus Dec 2012 #3
actually, I think its part of the puzzle here. To just roguevalley Dec 2012 #32
Wizard's First Rule, brought to you Ayn Rand disciple Terry Goodkind. Liberal Veteran Dec 2012 #4
They got really, really preachy after Temple of the Winds Occulus Dec 2012 #6
Marking to read later...nt SidDithers Dec 2012 #5
I'll never poke fun at my wife .... Bok_Tukalo Dec 2012 #7
... Matariki Dec 2012 #38
Or what about the inhabitants of Sodom? Nevernose Dec 2012 #8
I was going to pick something from the Bible, but this was a whole lot more mild Occulus Dec 2012 #9
LOL -- am I getting this right? Videos games aren't bad because some SciFi/Fantasy book is worse? downandoutnow Dec 2012 #10
Violence is a part of the human experience. An awful part, but a part none the less. white_wolf Dec 2012 #13
"To tell a good story you sometimes have to talk about the darker side of humanity." -- may be so! - downandoutnow Dec 2012 #18
replications of up-close-and-personal gory, brutal murder white_wolf Dec 2012 #21
Then again, there's FarCry 3, which I'm playing through now Occulus Dec 2012 #23
There are lots and lots of "first person shooters" out there that really aren't. Occulus Dec 2012 #31
Yep, he doesn't flinch from the horrors his characters visit on each other. I'm up to Cleita Dec 2012 #33
My point was to illustrate that many books are far, FAR more violent than any game Occulus Dec 2012 #16
I'm afraid you're wasting your time. This poster has to be a troll. white_wolf Dec 2012 #17
Frankly, I'm wondering if Mr. Benchley is making a repeat visit Occulus Dec 2012 #26
"SCI-FI/Fantasy is telling. It is properly termed "adult fantasy", and your improper classification" downandoutnow Dec 2012 #30
Google? Wikipedia? "Some professor"? Wikipedia? Occulus Dec 2012 #34
So NOW you say that it's "honestly debatable" terminology of classification, downandoutnow Dec 2012 #37
No, Occulus Dec 2012 #40
Gotta disagree. TDale313 Dec 2012 #39
Ha...I was wondering where you were going to go with this after reading the title. Evoman Dec 2012 #11
What Kahlan did to Demmin Nass was horrific Occulus Dec 2012 #20
I skipped to the bottom for fear of spoilers, but your post is brilliant. white_wolf Dec 2012 #12
forgive me for saying this, but your synopsis would make a decent video game story 0rganism Dec 2012 #14
The Witcher is amazing and one of the few games to deserve the M rating. white_wolf Dec 2012 #15
agreed - one of the few games that can hold its own as interactive literature 0rganism Dec 2012 #22
Interestingly, there's an entire series of games in which not a shot is fired Occulus Dec 2012 #25
You can play (and win) Fallout without killing anything too 0rganism Dec 2012 #27
Yes, you can. It's not exactly EASY in a post-apocalypic nuclear wasteland, but you CAN. Occulus Dec 2012 #29
It was tried as the television show "Legend of the Seeker", produced by Disney/ABC Occulus Dec 2012 #19
There's no way Disney/ABC could produce that kind of story convincingly 0rganism Dec 2012 #24
Fallout is great; I just started replaying New Vegas with the beauty mods Occulus Dec 2012 #28
That's it! TDale313 Dec 2012 #35
It felt garbled because Occulus Dec 2012 #36
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