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bossy22

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31. possibly alot less, possibly alot more, possibly the same

Tue Dec 18, 2012, 10:35 PM

Dec 2012

suicides are a hard thing to "pin down" to a single cause.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_suicide_rate

as you can see, there is a questionable correlation between gun ownership rates and suicides (Japan has a significantly higher suicide rate than the U.S.). Also I think focusing on the instrument used rather than the underlying cause for suicide does the victims and their families great injustice

Lastly, never forget the laws of unintended consequences (this is speaking from personal experience). That person who would have shot themselves in the head now goes into their garage and turns on their car with the door closed- He dies, and so does everyone in the house when the carbon monoxide seeps through.

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Know what I love about the concept of "you'll pry my gun out of my cold dead hands"? [View all] Happyhippychick Dec 2012 OP

Couldn't agree more! HERVEPA Dec 2012 #1

Ha ha ha. Gruesome. Loudly Dec 2012 #2

I wonder if Adam pried a gun out of his mother's cold dead hands. Cleita Dec 2012 #3

Nope. The only person she needed to fear was her own son. Happyhippychick Dec 2012 #6

Is that you Ted? Rambis Dec 2012 #4

The likelihood is that you killed yourself with your own gun mainer Dec 2012 #5

I assumed it was because someone shot them to get the gun away. See what happens when you try to Happyhippychick Dec 2012 #8

Charlton Heston, is this what you meant when you so defiantly rustydog Dec 2012 #7

Did you see when Michael Moore got into his house and pissed him off?Bowling for Columbine, brillant Happyhippychick Dec 2012 #9

America has the crime problems because of "all the different races" -- Heston -- eom Kolesar Dec 2012 #10

You personally? Really? Lizzie Poppet Dec 2012 #11

Nope, I'll be happy to do it. Happyhippychick Dec 2012 #12

I definitely respect that. Lizzie Poppet Dec 2012 #15

Is this about gun policy or is it about violent fantasies? RZM Dec 2012 #24

Okay, keep thinking that. Happyhippychick Dec 2012 #29

I'd rather not think that n/t RZM Dec 2012 #32

Okay then don't Happyhippychick Dec 2012 #36

Will you have armed backup? friendly_iconoclast Dec 2012 #35

No not in person sarisataka Dec 2012 #14

Eh, drones are used on a nearly daily basis to kill by our government Fumesucker Dec 2012 #19

Are you saying sarisataka Dec 2012 #23

Personally I would rather they weren't used at all, vigorously so Fumesucker Dec 2012 #26

I think they have a place sarisataka Dec 2012 #28

And often on children. Lizzie Poppet Dec 2012 #25

Who fights your wars? Who arrests your criminals? Ikonoklast Dec 2012 #17

Uh...people who should have guns like the police and the military. Is this a trick question? Happyhippychick Dec 2012 #22

I am SICK of threats from gun lovers and the NRA Dems to Win Dec 2012 #13

Also to the gun manufacturers. That's where the NRA gets their major Cleita Dec 2012 #16

Since more than half of gun deaths are suicides... mainer Dec 2012 #18

Heart breaking. I read an article about people who survived a bridge jump and all of them said that Happyhippychick Dec 2012 #20

My husband is frequently called to death scenes mainer Dec 2012 #27

possibly alot less, possibly alot more, possibly the same bossy22 Dec 2012 #31

Well said! It's an incredibly stupid comment that says one is willing Sarah Ibarruri Dec 2012 #21

Good post. smirkymonkey Dec 2012 #30

Cute. ellisonz Dec 2012 #33

reminds me of that saying: walk a mile in my shoes. Whisp Dec 2012 #34