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BrentWil

(2,384 posts) Tue Dec 18, 2012, 09:32 PM Dec 2012

We need a deal on the budget [View all]

We need a deal on the budget. It should be the best deal possible, but there needs to be a deal. The economy is getting ready to go to Greek like measures with taxes and spending. That will crush the economic recovery and the poor and middle class will feel the pain more than anyone. When you add to the fact that the debt ceiling is coming down the road, we are in trouble.

We have the Senate and the Presidency. The only reason Obama won is because the other side is shit crazy. Economic times are still weaj. The economy crashing will bring our party down and make 2014 a great year for the GOP. This is a very scarry environment because the insane could come to real power. While changing the inflation rate of SS(for example) sucks, the alternative is much worse.

In sum, Obama should get the best deal he can, but in the end he needs to close a deal.

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We need a deal on the budget [View all] BrentWil Dec 2012 OP

No we don't. kentuck Dec 2012 #1

That why it went higher today on the hint of a deal? BrentWil Dec 2012 #2

That's the excuse of the day. kentuck Dec 2012 #6

Nope, we need to let it all hit. RomneyLies Dec 2012 #3

Polls now do BrentWil Dec 2012 #7

Fuck that, let's go over the cliff. RomneyLies Dec 2012 #10

No deal is better than a bad deal....... socialist_n_TN Dec 2012 #4

This is pretty much what Republicans said when Clinton raised taxes. Lasher Dec 2012 #5

The GOP aren't the ones saying it BrentWil Dec 2012 #12

A voice of reason democrattotheend Dec 2012 #8

When the GOP takes hostages, I vote for shooting them. backscatter712 Dec 2012 #9

Probably not the best time to joke about shooting people. nt Honeycombe8 Dec 2012 #14

Basically agree. Not happy with latest proposals, but a deal is important. Hoyt Dec 2012 #11

No, we won't be better off for it. kentuck Dec 2012 #15

Over the Cliff! ellisonz Dec 2012 #13

Nothing like smiling at something that will fuck millions of poor and middle class BrentWil Dec 2012 #22

Making a deal with Boehner does that too... ellisonz Dec 2012 #23

There are degrees of fucked.. BrentWil Dec 2012 #28

Well have fun slicing of your nose to spite your face. ellisonz Dec 2012 #30

It will not benefit or hurt the poor as much as the middle class. kentuck Dec 2012 #25

An economy that sinks always hurts those at the bottom the most. NT BrentWil Dec 2012 #32

We do need a deal. I know cuts are coming. But for me, Social Security is the line in the sand. Honeycombe8 Dec 2012 #16

+1 Some things are unconscionable, that is one of them. forestpath Dec 2012 #20

I agree with you democrattotheend Dec 2012 #27

How does this mainly hurt the poor? BrentWil Dec 2012 #42

Because the poor are more likely to substitute democrattotheend Dec 2012 #43

It's an inflation rate that will slow the growth of benifits BrentWil Dec 2012 #44

go over the cliff! wildbilln864 Dec 2012 #17

No, we need to proudly march right over that cliff Autumn Dec 2012 #18

We will pay... BrentWil Dec 2012 #26

Some of us have been paying since this fucking recession began Autumn Dec 2012 #33

And then what? democrattotheend Dec 2012 #29

We need a president who acts like a Democrat and that means forestpath Dec 2012 #19

Yeah, a changes index is the same as what they wanted to do... BrentWil Dec 2012 #24

Please. Elderly people getting less money when they most need it. forestpath Dec 2012 #37

We need a deal on thebudget like we need a hole in the head RomneyLies Dec 2012 #21

The end result will be.... kentuck Dec 2012 #31

The GOP is giving on tax rates. NT BrentWil Dec 2012 #34

Bush tax cuts expire automatically. Bonobo Dec 2012 #35

They don't suck... kentuck Dec 2012 #36

All rates go up, including the low brackets. NY BrentWil Dec 2012 #38

And what is the lowest rate where people actually pay taxes? kentuck Dec 2012 #45

going Greek is one of the more ridiculous RW talking points Enrique Dec 2012 #39

That's not what I wrote. NT BrentWil Dec 2012 #40

This is the truth......... socialist_n_TN Dec 2012 #41

Screw That They_Live Dec 2012 #46