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Lizzie Poppet

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39. I would argue that the number of gun owners...
Tue Dec 18, 2012, 09:21 PM
Dec 2012

I would argue that the number of gun owners who "advocate shooting others on the basis of the most minor perceived threat" is in fact a very tiny percentage, indeed. Given that there are tens of millions of gun owners and about 10K gun-related killings and bout four times that many woundings per year. Surely there are far more cases in which "the most minor perceived threat" woudl be there.

Anyone who advocates shooting others on the basis of the most minor perceived threat Bjorn Against Dec 2012 #1
Bingo. Just dangerous people. And it doesn't matter if they belong to the NRA or not. nt. OldDem2012 Dec 2012 #25
I am not just talking about people who are a direct danger Bjorn Against Dec 2012 #27
I understood where you were going and I agree. nt. OldDem2012 Dec 2012 #28
Ah, so only a tiny percentage of gun owners, then. Lizzie Poppet Dec 2012 #33
Actually it is a pretty big percentage Bjorn Against Dec 2012 #36
The same people idolized G. Gordon Liddy and Oliver North graham4anything Dec 2012 #38
I would argue that the number of gun owners... Lizzie Poppet Dec 2012 #39
I see them all the time, there are even some at DU Bjorn Against Dec 2012 #45
Yes, I realized your assertion had two components. Lizzie Poppet Dec 2012 #56
So you ignored the bulk of the people I was referring to so you could call it a "tiny percentage" Bjorn Against Dec 2012 #64
Hey, YOU put the first group in the headline... Lizzie Poppet Dec 2012 #80
No, I put the second group in the headline. I will post my headline again for you... Bjorn Against Dec 2012 #84
Except that's not what they were advocating. Lizzie Poppet Dec 2012 #93
It sure as hell is what they were advocating Bjorn Against Dec 2012 #95
Don't presume to tell me what I know, pal. Lizzie Poppet Dec 2012 #99
Fine, I will just presume you are ignorant then. Bjorn Against Dec 2012 #100
Works for me. I'll happily reciprocate. Lizzie Poppet Dec 2012 #102
If you walk out door with a gun prepared to play jesus, judge, jury, executioner, Hoyt Dec 2012 #67
And the millions of shooting deaths and injuries per year prove your point. Lizzie Poppet Dec 2012 #83
No there are "only" about 9,000 deaths a year Bjorn Against Dec 2012 #86
I don't disagree that it's too damn many. Lizzie Poppet Dec 2012 #92
Who made a statement about tens of millions of people? A real person or a strawman? Bjorn Against Dec 2012 #94
Hoyt did. Lizzie Poppet Dec 2012 #97
No he did not. Bjorn Against Dec 2012 #98
Tens of millions of gun owners... Lizzie Poppet Dec 2012 #101
Time to quote you... Bjorn Against Dec 2012 #103
I just showed you RIF. Lizzie Poppet Dec 2012 #104
He did not make a blanket statement, and your response to his statement was sickening Bjorn Against Dec 2012 #106
Of course it's a blanket statement. Lizzie Poppet Dec 2012 #107
Says the person who used the eye roll icon to mock the number of people killed Bjorn Against Dec 2012 #108
Ah, another who says it's just price we have to pay. . . . . . Hoyt Dec 2012 #87
Oh, I said that, did I? Wait...I didn't. Lizzie Poppet Dec 2012 #91
The only rational answer is potato slackmaster Dec 2012 #2
~ Tuesday Afternoon Dec 2012 #40
Wow, the alerter is rather pedantic. slackmaster Dec 2012 #60
although I wasn't #5 -- I approve of that message. Tuesday Afternoon Dec 2012 #62
This message was self-deleted by its author slackmaster Dec 2012 #66
what is that saying? Discretion is the better part of valor, I think is how it goes. Tuesday Afternoon Dec 2012 #70
I guess you should have said patahto n/t hootinholler Dec 2012 #68
People in my family are more likely to use the term "turnip" or "filter feeder" slackmaster Dec 2012 #71
Gun Nut bongbong Dec 2012 #3
" gun nut is someone who has a gun without a job or wildlife-related (i.e, rancher) reason to own it obamanut2012 Dec 2012 #8
So, you have Strawman fail bongbong Dec 2012 #29
Why do you have to be so... one_voice Dec 2012 #41
To that poster, I am a gun nut obamanut2012 Dec 2012 #51
I've been reading your posts on... one_voice Dec 2012 #53
Thank you, I really appreciate it obamanut2012 Dec 2012 #90
Proved my point obamanut2012 Dec 2012 #49
Someone who has replaced breathing with firearms. n/t 2on2u Dec 2012 #4
I have been thinking about this mostlyalurker Dec 2012 #5
Target shooting and collecting are perfectly good non-nutty reasons for owning firearms slackmaster Dec 2012 #7
I think I would lump in target shooting with hunting. mostlyalurker Dec 2012 #15
I keep my collection locked in a safe that weiged 1,200 pounds empty slackmaster Dec 2012 #18
That seems absolutely reasonable to me. mostlyalurker Dec 2012 #30
Sargent & Greenleaf Series II dial combination lock, just like on safes used for money slackmaster Dec 2012 #65
Don't forget the ever present active biological deterrant aikoaiko Dec 2012 #46
Yes, my two highly trained Attack Cats. slackmaster Dec 2012 #61
What do you mean "knives"? I've a lot of knives around my house, without serious security. uppityperson Dec 2012 #20
I mean knives not used for your daily living like kitchen or utility knives. mostlyalurker Dec 2012 #32
This message was self-deleted by its author slackmaster Dec 2012 #63
Welcome to DU and I hope you enjoy the site. hrmjustin Dec 2012 #11
Thank you! mostlyalurker Dec 2012 #16
So if you live in a crime infested area, MadHound Dec 2012 #17
Or own a ranch obamanut2012 Dec 2012 #22
I consider a gun nut in the following way... LanternWaste Dec 2012 #6
Realistically speaking... OneMoreDemocrat Dec 2012 #14
I've spoken to more than four who believe that... LanternWaste Dec 2012 #42
Check out Gungeon for more than four. Hoyt Dec 2012 #72
You don't even need to go there. I think I've seen 4 hint at that position here in GC since Fri. nt laundry_queen Dec 2012 #109
I think it's a useless term, for starters. JohnnyLib2 Dec 2012 #9
+1 Lizzie Poppet Dec 2012 #34
Yep. It identifies the speaker's stance and very little beyond that. (nt) Posteritatis Dec 2012 #54
Your first case is NOT a gun nut tosh Dec 2012 #10
Anyone who wonders if they might be jberryhill Dec 2012 #12
Someone for whom Happiness Is A Warm Gun Fumesucker Dec 2012 #13
If you found yourself arguing in favor of guns last Friday DisgustipatedinCA Dec 2012 #19
+1000 ellisonz Dec 2012 #59
If you ever find yourself saying that the answer to gun violence is MORE guns... renie408 Dec 2012 #21
I know gun nuts, and I know people who just happen to own guns WooWooWoo Dec 2012 #23
Anyone with more guns than you is a gun-nut... anyone with less or equal is not. OneTenthofOnePercent Dec 2012 #24
easy MichaelHarris Dec 2012 #26
Anyone who is unwilling or unable to relate guns to gun-related crime. Aristus Dec 2012 #31
I know hunters and ranchers who are gun nuts, and gun owners who Warpy Dec 2012 #35
Great list...... llmart Dec 2012 #85
It's a term like "communist sympathizer" or "fellow traveler." AnotherMcIntosh Dec 2012 #37
Good unanswerable question. Another would be what is an "anti gun nut". One definition might be jody Dec 2012 #43
What's a justifiable fear ? orpupilofnature57 Dec 2012 #57
Anyone who is paranoid about government takeover, hordes guns and ammo for doomsday scenarios, and neverforget Dec 2012 #44
People who don't believe in any logical restictions on mzmolly Dec 2012 #47
Recognize a disease by its symptoms. ThatPoetGuy Dec 2012 #48
I own a single AK with a few 30-round magazines derby378 Dec 2012 #50
The shotgun's probably enough for some people to think that Posteritatis Dec 2012 #55
Is there any logical reason for you to own an AK + hi-cap mags? VOX Dec 2012 #69
I commend you. llmart Dec 2012 #88
A person that interjects guns into every conversation. orpupilofnature57 Dec 2012 #52
According to some posters if your own a gun you have blood on your hands and have a mental illness ProgressiveProfessor Dec 2012 #58
Ted Nugent = Gun Nut Generic Brad Dec 2012 #73
+1000 orpupilofnature57 Dec 2012 #113
you are more likely to get struck by lightning than use a gun in self defense farminator3000 Dec 2012 #74
Just call them nuts. Save a word. gulliver Dec 2012 #75
ANYONE WHO POSTS IN THIS THREAD undeterred Dec 2012 #76
anyone? I have a feeling some will take issue. Tuesday Afternoon Dec 2012 #79
A gun nut is some one who acts like a right wing whack job only over guns. liberal N proud Dec 2012 #77
I'd nominate anyone who rushed out to buy guns after Friday Fresh_Start Dec 2012 #78
I don't own a gun, never have, HooptieWagon Dec 2012 #81
Nope if you are for the awb and strict magazine limits you're not a gun nut. Warren Stupidity Dec 2012 #82
+1 ellisonz Dec 2012 #96
This ought to be fun Android3.14 Dec 2012 #89
Love it, a whole new genre of "if you, you might be..." sanatanadharma Dec 2012 #105
Anyone who owns a gun but doesn't truly need it Dems to Win Dec 2012 #110
I would be considered a gun nut to most people on this forum. Dr_Scholl Dec 2012 #111
"For the Second Amendment" is rather glib, honestly. Spider Jerusalem Dec 2012 #112
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