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DisgustipatedinCA

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12. Thank you. Seriously, thank you.

Reply to hack89 (Reply #11)

Tue Dec 18, 2012, 07:31 PM

Dec 2012

I don't agree with your starting premise that illegal gun owners would ignore such a penalty, at least the majority of them wouldn't ignore it. But I do thank you for providing some thoughts on what you'd do about this. That's what it's going to take for something meaningful to happen--conversations like this one that eventually go through the sausage grinder and become some sort of law. I do hope we end up taking steps that save lives in a statistically significant way.

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We can enforce any gun law we decide to pass, you know. [View all] DisgustipatedinCA Dec 2012 OP

But you wouldn't have space for all those new criminals pnwmom Dec 2012 #1

excellent point DisgustipatedinCA Dec 2012 #2

Then you open up those privately owned prisons Politicalboi Dec 2012 #3

Yeah. Still, nice to know weve got prison space, once we end the drug war. Warren DeMontague Dec 2012 #4

"and it would be, uh...socio-economic blind" - Unless the poor get the same lawyers as the rich, PoliticAverse Dec 2012 #5

Fair point, but beyond the scope of this thread DisgustipatedinCA Dec 2012 #8

Why are you assuming that elected red state police, prosecutors and judges hack89 Dec 2012 #6

In my mind's eye, this would be federal law DisgustipatedinCA Dec 2012 #7

Well, good luck with that. hack89 Dec 2012 #9

hack89, it's time for you to leave the sidelines and step up DisgustipatedinCA Dec 2012 #10

I would start by focusing on violent felons hack89 Dec 2012 #11

Thank you. Seriously, thank you. DisgustipatedinCA Dec 2012 #12

You are welcome. nt hack89 Dec 2012 #13

Lack of federal enforcement capability is actually very important. Lizzie Poppet Dec 2012 #14

Imagine this scenario: DisgustipatedinCA Dec 2012 #15

You're assuming that the federal prosecuter ComplimentarySwine Dec 2012 #18

You're correct. I'm assuming the federal prosecutor doesn't want to be fired. DisgustipatedinCA Dec 2012 #19

And the federal judges? Are they worried about that too? n/t ComplimentarySwine Dec 2012 #21

No. DisgustipatedinCA Dec 2012 #22

Local yokels are not above the law. 99Forever Dec 2012 #16

It's a matter of numbers. Lizzie Poppet Dec 2012 #17

Again, how is this different than any other federal law? DisgustipatedinCA Dec 2012 #20

I never claimed it was. Lizzie Poppet Dec 2012 #23

It would have to get by the courts first ProgressiveProfessor Dec 2012 #24

Well, it would have to get past the courts second DisgustipatedinCA Dec 2012 #25

The gun enhancement penalties already on the books are not enforced as it is. ProgressiveProfessor Dec 2012 #26