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libdem4life

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60. Shucks, it's tough being a little kid on a big person forum. That being said, 20 or so years ago
Tue Dec 18, 2012, 07:29 PM
Dec 2012

during the Polly Klaas case, our white, middle-class, formerly safe, suburban community ... as a whole ... kept their kids inside, no street soccer games, after school baseball games ended, the TV and video games inside became the "safe places" to play. Her body was ultimately found in a ditch within a couple of miles from our neighborhood.

The neighborhood never did get back to those "safer" days. Yes, we felt better every time we saw a police car go by whereas before, one hardly noticed. And even though it did not directly affect the schools as she was kidnapped from her home and murdered later, they sponsored parent meetings, experts talking to us, tips on how to keep kids safer, etc.

Mark Klaas, her dad, and the non-profit he formed out of his grief, set the stage for networks on child abduction and safety.

Now retail malls have "security" and I don't stay away afraid I'm in a Nazi Germany. Go snark to the folks in Connecticut. They have 26 times the reason ... as do schools, kids and teachers everywhere ... to welcome a bit of "security" other than the tasking the Principal and the teachers to start packing heat.



Gun cultists think that criminality is genetic... Scootaloo Dec 2012 #1
no truer words have ever been spoken rbrnmw Dec 2012 #18
I suspect the irony in your statement... Lizzie Poppet Dec 2012 #32
I suppose so Scootaloo Dec 2012 #38
The whole "criminal" line is BS. Tommy_Carcetti Dec 2012 #2
Todays emerging black market: ellisonz Dec 2012 #3
How the hell is that different from the gun classified section of the NY Times? AtheistCrusader Dec 2012 #63
Bollocks. ellisonz Dec 2012 #69
So how is the NY Times classifieds section different? AtheistCrusader Dec 2012 #75
Newspaper readership is at an all-time low. ellisonz Dec 2012 #77
The paper has been doing this for decades. AtheistCrusader Dec 2012 #78
Why don't you ask them: ellisonz Dec 2012 #79
Not germane to the question. AtheistCrusader Dec 2012 #80
Do you realize how easy it is to buy a gun in this country? ellisonz Dec 2012 #81
Yes. Easy as picking up the paper and dialing a phone number. AtheistCrusader Dec 2012 #82
Oy Vey ellisonz Dec 2012 #83
The sellers should serve seriously long prison time. SheilaT Dec 2012 #4
People find drugs without any problems Recursion Dec 2012 #5
True Nevernose Dec 2012 #6
I specifically mentioned pot because it's not addictive Recursion Dec 2012 #8
no really it is completely relevant. Warren Stupidity Dec 2012 #27
It's not about your feelings Recursion Dec 2012 #31
Oh it is both possible and practical, you just don't want to lose your precious toys. Warren Stupidity Dec 2012 #41
I don't own any guns. Stop making stuff up Recursion Dec 2012 #44
I'm not advocating absolute prohibition of all guns. Warren Stupidity Dec 2012 #57
What about cigarettes? They absolutely kill people and make bystanders sick. KittyWampus Dec 2012 #48
This thread is about guns JanMichael Dec 2012 #51
It's about Prohibition. Does it work? Are there alternatives or combinations of strategies? KittyWampus Dec 2012 #58
That is a reasonable question. Warren Stupidity Dec 2012 #54
IMO, the goal/ideal is to get people to change their minds about guns, smoking, drunk driving. KittyWampus Dec 2012 #59
Well yes, primarily this is a culture war, but.... Warren Stupidity Dec 2012 #74
I don't know... ComplimentarySwine Dec 2012 #72
And drugs are illegal to manufacture, sell and posess! Guns are not! It is.... Logical Dec 2012 #7
I've never heard of anyone hiding an assault rifle up their ... JoePhilly Dec 2012 #9
No, but people have done that with pistols Recursion Dec 2012 #11
the last few JanMichael Dec 2012 #12
Most in the past few years have used handguns Recursion Dec 2012 #13
I know that; we lived within a hundred miles of that place JanMichael Dec 2012 #16
Well that can be addressed in two specific ways. Warren Stupidity Dec 2012 #42
Does this mean you can smuggle an AR-15 in your anus. Arctic Dave Dec 2012 #68
Yes, but psychotic individuals prone to shoot dozens of babies will find it more difficult n/t RomneyLies Dec 2012 #10
Exactly. I don't think Adam Lanza put a whole lot of thought JanMichael Dec 2012 #14
This is just a WAG, but if the Lanza kid had known there were two uniformed Security Officers libdem4life Dec 2012 #15
Or he might have tried to shoot the guards. I agree with you on the tax and monitor all guns though. JanMichael Dec 2012 #22
All of these "shooters" are cowards. He would not likely go up against a known armed adult. libdem4life Dec 2012 #30
I don't know about that...you are talking about people who are no longer JanMichael Dec 2012 #33
You may be right, who knows, but Mom involves domestic violence and lots of inner demons libdem4life Dec 2012 #53
She was killed with the gun...it was already out- I see your point JanMichael Dec 2012 #55
Yeah, so many possibilities and I totally agree, although I've given up on my dream...which would be libdem4life Dec 2012 #61
lets turn all public spaces into military control zones Warren Stupidity Dec 2012 #29
Maybe I'm missing something here...banks and federal offices and civic officers even sports events libdem4life Dec 2012 #39
You are probably too young to recall that we didn't always live in a security state. Warren Stupidity Dec 2012 #43
I'm not JanMichael Dec 2012 #52
Shucks, it's tough being a little kid on a big person forum. That being said, 20 or so years ago libdem4life Dec 2012 #60
and drunks will still drive. it's bullshit. with that logic we'd do nothing. spanone Dec 2012 #17
Notice we didn't ban alcohol. Or cars Recursion Dec 2012 #21
ban assault weapons. spanone Dec 2012 #23
Like Connectiut did? Recursion Dec 2012 #25
I want to see federal reform; I could care less about state level JanMichael Dec 2012 #28
For a simple speeding ticket last year.... JanMichael Dec 2012 #24
Agree treestar Dec 2012 #19
Criminals spread their victims out. GreenStormCloud Dec 2012 #62
Still, it's not as random treestar Dec 2012 #84
Gun violence ElbarDee Dec 2012 #20
Why isn't the 50% decrease in gun violence more widely examined? Recursion Dec 2012 #26
Think how much it might have decreased without all the dang guns. Hoyt Dec 2012 #35
LOL, You've been watching too many Steven Segal and Bruce Willis movies. FSogol Dec 2012 #34
You're right, they aren't used often to rob the local store. Glassunion Dec 2012 #36
apparently, one didn't even need to try to find a market JanMichael Dec 2012 #40
Depending you can get one for about 600 to 700 Glassunion Dec 2012 #45
What are you replying to? It's as if you didn't read the OP JanMichael Dec 2012 #37
You didn't type this line: "Yes, I am sure SOME criminals will still be able to obtain... FSogol Dec 2012 #47
LOL...OK. I get it. JanMichael Dec 2012 #49
Gun nuts are scaredy cats and losers. They just throw up their hands and whine endlessly kestrel91316 Dec 2012 #46
I swear to god JanMichael Dec 2012 #50
Laws are not made to keep the criminals in line rock Dec 2012 #56
you're average dumbshit gun nut wanna be tough guy with a "Man Card" wont deal in the criminal world pasto76 Dec 2012 #64
Can they get machine guns? Jeff In Milwaukee Dec 2012 #65
True. But there are 300 million guns. Not many machine guns. Unless you can remove all the..... Logical Dec 2012 #67
Ban the manufacture of these items for non-military use, period. scarletwoman Dec 2012 #66
You are confusing the two terms. ManiacJoe Dec 2012 #70
As educated or semi-educated middle class young adults ComplimentarySwine Dec 2012 #71
and how do criminals usually get them? xmas74 Dec 2012 #73
Gun nuts bash all improvements unless 100% effective. They don't recognize a 10% improvement Hoyt Dec 2012 #76
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