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Warren DeMontague

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61. I disagree. I think, when we're talking about this specific type of incident, it IS the guns.

Tue Dec 18, 2012, 07:27 PM

Dec 2012

Violent crime is down. However, the ability of one lone nut to acquire the sort of firepower that allows him to kill this many people in a short period of time? It's unacceptable.

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Should law enforcement officers be stripped of lethal arms? [View all] closeupready Dec 2012 OP

Bump? closeupready Dec 2012 #1

Comments welcome. closeupready Dec 2012 #2

I see what you mean. Sorry I missed this earlier. Maybe this kick will spark some interest? Egalitarian Thug Dec 2012 #3

Dropped off the first page in only 20 minutes. n/t Egalitarian Thug Dec 2012 #4

55 minutes and it's almost off the second page. n/t Egalitarian Thug Dec 2012 #5

Yeah, this went well, huh? Guess it's not time to talk about gun control. closeupready Dec 2012 #6

The lack of kicks to this thread should tell you something of its irrelevance to the debae Bucky Dec 2012 #7

Yes, it tells me that it's not time to talk about gun control. closeupready Dec 2012 #8

So to your mind, Is it ever time? Warren DeMontague Dec 2012 #12

It was "now", yesterday. But nobody wanted to talk about it, closeupready Dec 2012 #14

Because your "context" is a bs diversion to shut down the real discussion Warren DeMontague Dec 2012 #17

Where is this real discussion? All I've read from you are insults and inciting. n/t Egalitarian Thug Dec 2012 #44

BAN THE GOD DAMN ASSAULT WEAPONS. NOW. Warren DeMontague Dec 2012 #45

Thanks for making my point again. Egalitarian Thug Dec 2012 #49

I know, the fee fees of the gun people are all that's important. Warren DeMontague Dec 2012 #50

No, you're the screaming child upset because his ice cream cone fell on the street. Egalitarian Thug Dec 2012 #52

Right. Warren DeMontague Dec 2012 #53

Like the point of the OP, I think it's well past time for us to lose it all. Egalitarian Thug Dec 2012 #54

Yeah, well, excuse me, but I'm a smidgen pissed off right now. Warren DeMontague Dec 2012 #57

And what does that accomplish? That's my point. It's not the guns so much as it's the gun culture. Egalitarian Thug Dec 2012 #60

I disagree. I think, when we're talking about this specific type of incident, it IS the guns. Warren DeMontague Dec 2012 #61

And I'll note that you haven't responded to my question, either, closeupready Dec 2012 #15

STOP TALKING BOUT TAKING MY PRECIOUS!!!!!! Warren DeMontague Dec 2012 #18

Okay, putting the 22-year-old on ignore. closeupready Dec 2012 #24

Yeah. Warren DeMontague Dec 2012 #30

No, because law enforcement may still need to use lethal force rustydog Dec 2012 #9

So would, for example, Kitty Genovese. closeupready Dec 2012 #10

All of those things take place in GB, and they do still maintain armed units for when it is Egalitarian Thug Dec 2012 #35

Ah, another not-so-cleverly-disguised "DONT TAKE MY PRECIOUS!!!!" Thread. Warren DeMontague Dec 2012 #11

No. nt rrneck Dec 2012 #13

Does that mean, then, you oppose effective gun control? closeupready Dec 2012 #16

No, I don't oppose effective gun control. rrneck Dec 2012 #22

I agree, though what does 'crappy health care' have to do with this? closeupready Dec 2012 #23

Yep. ntt rrneck Dec 2012 #27

Work on the NRA types first, then we'll talk about the police. nt WastedSaint Dec 2012 #19

That makes no sense. closeupready Dec 2012 #20

Yep - there are as many asshole LE as there are in any other profession. jmg257 Dec 2012 #21

Switzerland... LP2K12 Dec 2012 #29

I live in the UK Morganfleeman Dec 2012 #25

Ok, but then, if the argument is this, closeupready Dec 2012 #26

Holy shit-biscuits Glassunion Dec 2012 #31

Plonk. closeupready Dec 2012 #33

I guess ignore is easier than standing up for his argument. Glassunion Dec 2012 #36

Maybe part of the problem that needs to be adressed is the 300 Million+ guns? Why would we even jmg257 Dec 2012 #40

Agreed. closeupready Dec 2012 #41

Our police departments are becoming paramilitary forces. woo me with science Dec 2012 #28

It's pretty damn obvious what's being done here. Warren DeMontague Dec 2012 #32

Ultimately that is the right answer tk2kewl Dec 2012 #34

Why not do it all at once, if you think it is possible to do it at all? Egalitarian Thug Dec 2012 #39

i wish we could tk2kewl Dec 2012 #43

We just have to decide to do it. What I believe would happen though, should some sane solution Egalitarian Thug Dec 2012 #48

Maybe when gun violence drops below a certain threshold? moondust Dec 2012 #37

+1 yes. nt WastedSaint Dec 2012 #47

give em slingshots Puzzledtraveller Dec 2012 #38

Umm... no. bobclark86 Dec 2012 #42

Maybe I'm wrong, but I thought they had firearms training? closeupready Dec 2012 #46

As I remember, NY cops had 440hrs of classroom training, including about 40hrs of firearms jmg257 Dec 2012 #51

Not until we have WAY better gun safety regulations here. kestrel91316 Dec 2012 #55

I'm not sure I follow. closeupready Dec 2012 #56

Yes n/t geomon666 Dec 2012 #58

No, we are not the United Kingdom we have an entirely different set of problems. Mr.Turnip Dec 2012 #59