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napoleon_in_rags

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39. It could go that way, but it just doesn't have to be like that.
Tue Dec 18, 2012, 06:09 PM
Dec 2012

Last edited Tue Dec 18, 2012, 07:05 PM - Edit history (1)

What I envision is a system where family members of an individual can take that individual in, and have the individual provided supports in terms of living, meds help with finding employment, etc. Once the individual gets on his or her feet, and doesn't need the program, than the status of the individual goes to being exactly the same as every other member of society. If they need to go back in, they go back in.

You're right about the majority of people with mental illnesses, even the more severe ones, as not being dangerous. And many, like the many Americans who go to work every day but take some med sometimes for something, like this post, as basically being normal. But from the reports I've heard on Lanza so far, this guy was too messed up to hold down a job, or even socially interact. To me that should have been a sign that he should have been getting some kind of help.

Edit: Phamacy database? Really? God I hope they wouldn't be that dumb. "Don't take the meds, or THEY will know, and start to track you."

The best kind of loss prevention in stores is simply good customer service. Similarly, I believe the best way to prevent mentally ill violence is simply compassionate involvement. I can tell you there would be a big reduction in crime right off the bat. How? Mentally ill would be victims of less crimes. That's how. And if somebody has big problems, if they need something like involuntary incarceration, somebody would there to see it.

Sounds like a mental illness n/t Fumesucker Dec 2012 #1
I would dearly love to speak to that person... CBHagman Dec 2012 #2
Were you talking to my sisters? Cold people. nt Mnemosyne Dec 2012 #3
Apparently they are unaware of St. Ronnie Reagan Ilsa Dec 2012 #4
If we use the excellent Dyedinthewoolliberal Dec 2012 #5
+1 n/t area51 Dec 2012 #12
That right there.... frostfern Dec 2012 #6
Reader's Digest version: our society is well and truly fucked in the head - n/t coalition_unwilling Dec 2012 #31
I always thought these assholes live in a parallel universe. lpbk2713 Dec 2012 #7
Lock this guy in a cell with the naked guy who tried to eat somebody's face. eppur_se_muova Dec 2012 #8
Amen. DebJ Dec 2012 #23
If someone had said that to me today Zoeisright Dec 2012 #9
Stupid asshats! Most insurance doesn't cover psychiatric needs! DearHeart Dec 2012 #10
The ACA is changing that. Ins. policies will be required to provide some sort of Honeycombe8 Dec 2012 #13
That'll be great...once it takes effect! DearHeart Dec 2012 #16
Yes...I'm hanging on until the ACA is fully implemented. I'm older and am so afraid Honeycombe8 Dec 2012 #17
Yes my name if from the movie/song Dear Heart...one of my favorites! DearHeart Dec 2012 #18
I love that movie. I recorded it to DVD from TCM. As for COBRA... Honeycombe8 Dec 2012 #19
I also recorded it to DVD from TCM, never seen it for sale anywhere on DVD. DearHeart Dec 2012 #25
No, Dear Heart is not on DVD. And the only VHS you can get is used. Honeycombe8 Dec 2012 #26
I'm so glad that we both got this movie!! DearHeart Dec 2012 #34
We will be paying $18000 a year for health insurance beginning this March for two years DebJ Dec 2012 #24
tell me they were not on DU Skittles Dec 2012 #11
OP thread title sounds like beginning of a joke that needs a punch line...nt fadedrose Dec 2012 #14
That's the cancer this country suffers from. dawg Dec 2012 #15
Hell, I can't find a job. white_wolf Dec 2012 #20
Gross. Can you do me a favor, and Quantess Dec 2012 #21
I have bipolar II syndrome, a full time job, and pay for my BCBSM coverage out of pocket. Denninmi Dec 2012 #22
You rock. napoleon_in_rags Dec 2012 #27
It was like walking a minefield covered in broken glass and cobras. Denninmi Dec 2012 #32
I have the same mental health issue as you, and I'm arguing the mental health angle. napoleon_in_rags Dec 2012 #35
Thanks. I find it rather hard to chill about this. Denninmi Dec 2012 #36
Here's the thing you need to know about better supports for mentally ill: napoleon_in_rags Dec 2012 #41
I'm having a great deal of trouble envisioning the "no stigma" part, first and foremost. Denninmi Dec 2012 #43
No, you're totally right. napoleon_in_rags Dec 2012 #44
My problem is the reach is likely to be much greater than the problem. HereSince1628 Dec 2012 #38
It could go that way, but it just doesn't have to be like that. napoleon_in_rags Dec 2012 #39
Mean-sprited though this will sound, I hope severe mental illness visits coalition_unwilling Dec 2012 #28
Why do we have to share this country with idiots like this? AZ Progressive Dec 2012 #29
I wonder if that person knows one of my former bosses who said those who coalition_unwilling Dec 2012 #30
People like that are why we have mass shootings - n/t lbrtbell Dec 2012 #33
Heh--some of them already have jobs--as bosses librechik Dec 2012 #37
You can't fix stupid etherealtruth Dec 2012 #40
wtf? zappaman Dec 2012 #42
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