It's more dangerous to be a pre-schooler in America than it is to be a cop on duty [View all]

ALMOST TWICE AS MANY PRESCHOOLERS ARE KILLED BY GUNS AS ARE COPS | According to the Children’s Defense Fund, nearly twice as many preschoolers were killed by guns in 2008-2009 as there were law enforcement officers killed in the line of duty:

http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2012/12/17/1343291/almost-twice-as-many-preschoolers-are-killed-by-guns-as-are-cops/

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It's more dangerous to be a pre-schooler in America than it is to be a cop on duty [View all]	MrScorpio	Dec 2012	OP
Clearly this shows that we need to arm preschoolers	Fumesucker	Dec 2012	#1
Nice exercise in creative arithmetic	slackmaster	Dec 2012	#2
How so? Can you be specific?	cynatnite	Dec 2012	#4
Here's a hint: Are there as many police officers in this country as there are pre-school children?	slackmaster	Dec 2012	#6
So it's not creative arithmatic...	cynatnite	Dec 2012	#9
Do you understand the difference between a rate and a raw count?	slackmaster	Dec 2012	#10
This was not creative arithmatic...	cynatnite	Dec 2012	#15
Actual numbers, like < 1 mil cops and >60 mil children (under 14)	cleanhippie	Dec 2012	#20
preschoolers, dude.	laundry_queen	Dec 2012	#27
Does google not work for you?	cleanhippie	Dec 2012	#48
Does Google say how ...	99Forever	Dec 2012	#53
Hahaha! Now you're moving the goalposts.	cleanhippie	Dec 2012	#54
Way to shuck and jive.	99Forever	Dec 2012	#57
There is no honesty or integrity in the question to begin with.	cleanhippie	Dec 2012	#60
So you have nothing.	99Forever	Dec 2012	#62
Yes, for nothing you get nothing.	cleanhippie	Dec 2012	#65
This message was self-deleted by its author	99Forever	Dec 2012	#67
Damn. I missed your post before you self deleted.	cleanhippie	Dec 2012	#70
I stop engaging...	99Forever	Dec 2012	#71
Ahh, I see. You recognized that all you have left is projection.	cleanhippie	Dec 2012	#72
Read downthread genius.	laundry_queen	Dec 2012	#81
I'm not arguing the actual numbers at all...	cynatnite	Dec 2012	#30
So mr slack...	99Forever	Dec 2012	#21
Rates and raw counts of zero would be acceptable to me.	slackmaster	Dec 2012	#28
Then why are you pimping the NRA talking points?	99Forever	Dec 2012	#35
The difference between a statistical rate and a raw count is now an "NRA talking point?"	slackmaster	Dec 2012	#45
Going to answer the questions or just..	99Forever	Dec 2012	#51
Your questions are insulting, and the math issue is plain as day to anyone who finished sixth grade.	slackmaster	Dec 2012	#55
Honesty is insulting?	99Forever	Dec 2012	#58
No smartguy...	99Forever	Dec 2012	#74
Obviously police officers are at much greater risk of getting shot than preschoolers are.	slackmaster	Dec 2012	#76
This post was hidden by jury decision.	99Forever	Dec 2012	#79
You're just wrong, that's why slack didn't answer	Bake	Dec 2012	#73
Expect To See You Make This Comment, Sir	The Magistrate	Dec 2012	#36
why do people post stats	ProdigalJunkMail	Dec 2012	#37
Because they are too proud to admit that they have been caught at a deception, I suppose	slackmaster	Dec 2012	#46
i am guessing the latter...	ProdigalJunkMail	Dec 2012	#47
Seems that your "math" pal isn't really interested in...	99Forever	Dec 2012	#52
actually, you are the one not interested in apples to apples	ProdigalJunkMail	Dec 2012	#69
Correct.	H2O Man	Dec 2012	#64
thank you for stepping in so quickly to protect the reputation of the lowly gun	CreekDog	Dec 2012	#78
They are almost always killed at home by family members, not at preschool	FarCenter	Dec 2012	#3
I think the point is that guns kill more children than cops. n/t	cynatnite	Dec 2012	#5
Yes home is dangerous. Why make it more dangerous with guns?	mainer	Dec 2012	#7
In 2011 there were 385 homicides of children aged 0 to 4.	FarCenter	Dec 2012	#11
Yeah, but that "somewhat less than 50%" needn't have happened at all	mainer	Dec 2012	#16
Your assuming that the perpetrator would not have used other means	FarCenter	Dec 2012	#42
If that's the case, doesn't it make sense to have better gun control laws to prevent	Arkansas Granny	Dec 2012	#8
Are you disputing the OP or agreeing with it? I'm having trouble	coalition_unwilling	Dec 2012	#12
The title would leave the impression that pre-school is a dangerous place, which is wrong.	FarCenter	Dec 2012	#13
I got you. Absolute numbers of deaths in the respective populations say	coalition_unwilling	Dec 2012	#17
Totally meaningless stat	RZM	Dec 2012	#14
So I looked it up	laundry_queen	Dec 2012	#31
Forget about the naysayers and carpers, this is a powerful statement	Fumesucker	Dec 2012	#18
Sure, it's powerful if one subscribes to ignorance.	cleanhippie	Dec 2012	#22
Well, that's about five percent of the population and I think I'm being generous with that	Fumesucker	Dec 2012	#25
If we have to surrender critical, rational thought and logic to emotion in order to "win"	cleanhippie	Dec 2012	#49
As I said, that's about five percent of the population that will respond to rational thought	Fumesucker	Dec 2012	#56
We keep trying. Lowering ourselves to that level is regressive, not progressive.	cleanhippie	Dec 2012	#59
+1	Lizzie Poppet	Dec 2012	#63
Great. So neither side need be taken seriously.	cthulu2016	Dec 2012	#23
Politics isn't about facts and logic nearly as much as it is about emotion and tribalism	Fumesucker	Dec 2012	#26
It's not exaggeration	bongbong	Dec 2012	#29
Too late	Fumesucker	Dec 2012	#34
Yep!	bongbong	Dec 2012	#44
Wow. That's headline is just FALSE.	cthulu2016	Dec 2012	#19
I think the disconnect comes in the title of the OP vs. the material the OP cites. The	coalition_unwilling	Dec 2012	#24
It's orders of magnitude safer to be in a preschool than to be a police officer	Recursion	Dec 2012	#32
The weight the two categories respective to the relative exposure to danger.	Ikonoklast	Dec 2012	#38
Amazing	bongbong	Dec 2012	#33
You know full well the headline doesn't pass statistical muster	RZM	Dec 2012	#40
Nope	bongbong	Dec 2012	#43
Hell, Sir, It is More Dangerous To Be a Truck Driver Than A Police Officer....	The Magistrate	Dec 2012	#39
Patently false.	Lizzie Poppet	Dec 2012	#41
It is only 10 times more dangerous to be a cop than a preschooler.	Robb	Dec 2012	#50
I'd certainly like to see a wider gap, obviously.	Lizzie Poppet	Dec 2012	#61
This would be a great post if your science wasn't bunk. Do better next time.	WastedSaint	Dec 2012	#66
no it's not, since there are way more preschoolers than cops.	HiPointDem	Dec 2012	#68
Math is hard!	Logical	Dec 2012	#75
I think I see what you did there	slackmaster	Dec 2012	#77
Statistics failure... there are probably about 10x more preschoolers than cops.	OneTenthofOnePercent	Dec 2012	#80
How many cops are there vs. how many preschoolers are there in this country? nt	Raine	Dec 2012	#82