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HiPointDem

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42. we could be living in nazi germany, or in the us in 1929. but we're not. $400 billion in medical
Tue Dec 18, 2012, 04:04 AM
Dec 2012

cuts.

"President Barack Obama has agreed to curtail future cost-of-living increases for social security" HiPointDem Dec 2012 #1
then he better also curtail increases in the cost of medicare for SS recipients. Mel Content Dec 2012 #6
absolutely pangaia Dec 2012 #12
He needs to curtail increases in Medicare supplemental premiums. Lugnut Dec 2012 #14
Impossible. I've been assured repeatedly by his official fan club that Marr Dec 2012 #43
I have been a believer in that for some time, actually. teddy51 Dec 2012 #2
He's politically talented enough to pin that on Republicans. When they're voted out, problem solved Loudly Dec 2012 #3
No. Problem still exists. Blame is the only thing that changes. WTF is wrong with you? Egalitarian Thug Dec 2012 #30
I'm counting on those real people to vote. People who may have been voting Republican until now. Loudly Dec 2012 #33
. Egalitarian Thug Dec 2012 #37
Listen, I AM one of those real people. I do vote and have never voted for a repug! SammyWinstonJack Dec 2012 #58
It's too late once it's done. n/t ohheckyeah Dec 2012 #83
That's not any real surprise is it? Between him and Romney doc03 Dec 2012 #4
I guess it needs to be asked. Control-Z Dec 2012 #5
+1 nt wildbilln864 Dec 2012 #7
I'm not really concerned about your opinion of my original post so much as I am In Truth We Trust Dec 2012 #10
Ah. I see. Control-Z Dec 2012 #15
Seriously? You really needed clarification? Seriously? In Truth We Trust Dec 2012 #19
Well, yeah. I did. Control-Z Dec 2012 #22
You are very insincere. Please refrain from consuming my time with bullshit and false accusations. In Truth We Trust Dec 2012 #24
Actually, I was being sincere. Control-Z Dec 2012 #25
Thanks elleng Dec 2012 #29
Thank You. People on the outside, looking in through tiny windows and coming to conclusions about patrice Dec 2012 #46
trust the process by insuring hopemountain Dec 2012 #79
i sent my letters to my reps this a.m. hopemountain Dec 2012 #75
He is not a wolf....He is a Blue Dog Teamster Jeff Dec 2012 #8
This message was self-deleted by its author ann--- Dec 2012 #27
Are you saying that Barack Obama is a liar? Wouldn't that mean that we should oppose him & patrice Dec 2012 #34
This message was self-deleted by its author ann--- Dec 2012 #55
At this point, what's going on is about Congress & 2014. patrice Dec 2012 #31
Has it come to the point where winning the election is more important GreenPartyVoter Dec 2012 #72
Jeff you rule AldoLeopold Dec 2012 #52
vigorous nod in agreement, hopemountain Dec 2012 #81
No. n/t NYC Liberal Dec 2012 #9
Thanks elleng Dec 2012 #28
If health care costs go down & services covered increase, CPI is of lower priority, right? patrice Dec 2012 #32
Evidently he is a Republican. forestpath Dec 2012 #11
Did you forget something? Control-Z Dec 2012 #17
Obama certainly implied just that recently Fumesucker Dec 2012 #20
Well. There you go then. (nt) Control-Z Dec 2012 #23
I don't need a sarcasm thingy. Throwing seniors over the cliff speaks for itself. forestpath Dec 2012 #60
Why is he giving in on anything? pangaia Dec 2012 #13
Exactly! Why? See original post. In Truth We Trust Dec 2012 #16
Calm Down Tmloft Dec 2012 #18
Obama is doing fine on this one, and everyone will be better off - but I could be wrong. Hoyt Dec 2012 #21
You could be wrong & there are plenty of dishonest types around working their butts off to see to it patrice Dec 2012 #35
Recipients of medicare, medicaid, social security, the working poor and the middle class will not HiPointDem Dec 2012 #36
I'm not sure about that. Hoyt Dec 2012 #38
how's that? by definition, all those groups will get less as their spending power a/o benefits are HiPointDem Dec 2012 #39
We could be living in Greece where they fucked around to long and had too make Hoyt Dec 2012 #41
we could be living in nazi germany, or in the us in 1929. but we're not. $400 billion in medical HiPointDem Dec 2012 #42
Link please. If it's cuts to overpaid providers, not concerned about that. Hoyt Dec 2012 #44
"Cuts to overpaid providers" who would have a lot of interest in creating mistrust of PO. nt patrice Dec 2012 #48
... HiPointDem Dec 2012 #49
So it's $33 billion in potential cuts if it happens, versus $400 billion in headlines above. Hoyt Dec 2012 #59
no, it's $400 billion in cuts, those are just the ones that seniors pay for directly. HiPointDem Dec 2012 #68
Right and other $367 B go to providers like pharmaecuticals, Medicare HMOs, etc., that are overpaid. Hoyt Dec 2012 #70
it won't be pharma taking the cuts. HiPointDem Dec 2012 #94
Let's see -- If economy gets better, SS fund gets richer. ACA gives us new Medicare services. Hoyt Dec 2012 #89
if the economy improves, those things will happen whether or not seniors take cuts to medicare. HiPointDem Dec 2012 #93
Gloom, gloom, gloom. Be happy and positive. Obama's got this. Hoyt Dec 2012 #96
oh? and you receive ss or disability? hopemountain Dec 2012 #84
Eligible right now -- how about you? Hoyt Dec 2012 #87
eligible but choosing not to take it, eh? hopemountain Dec 2012 #90
Who is callous in their judgement? I think all seniors will be better off, considering situation. Hoyt Dec 2012 #91
2/3 of seniors rely on SS for half or more of their income. 1/3 rely on it for 90% or more. The HiPointDem Dec 2012 #97
This message was self-deleted by its author ann--- Dec 2012 #26
Boy that didn't take long. allrevvedup Dec 2012 #40
Actually, Obama followed Hoover policies MannyGoldstein Dec 2012 #56
We are not in a depression. We are not even in a recession (nt) Nye Bevan Dec 2012 #66
We're not in a recession, but we are in a depression MannyGoldstein Dec 2012 #67
We're not in a depression. Did you notice that GM still makes cars allrevvedup Dec 2012 #99
i agree with your humble O hopemountain Dec 2012 #92
thanks hopemountain, allrevvedup Dec 2012 #98
petition signed hopemountain Dec 2012 #107
No, but since the Huffington Post headline SAYS SO, CakeGrrl Dec 2012 #45
also reported in the NYT, WAPO, WSJ & LA Times. HiPointDem Dec 2012 #50
Nailed it...nt SidDithers Dec 2012 #65
it is as you say hopemountain Dec 2012 #108
No. Thank you all for your grave concern. Hekate Dec 2012 #47
The concern is all rather consistently 'grave', isn't it? Summer Hathaway Dec 2012 #53
Regardless what he does he cannot do without Congress, so if social security, medicare, and the still_one Dec 2012 #51
He's not powerless against congreess. He has the veto pen. Tierra_y_Libertad Dec 2012 #74
True, but that means if Congress holds firm social security or medicare would not be cut still_one Dec 2012 #85
If he caves on SS and/or medicare they will be cut. Tierra_y_Libertad Dec 2012 #86
Agreed, and as far as I am concerned if they are cut, from my perspective I am finished with them. still_one Dec 2012 #88
Basically he's Lincoln or at least in the same position AldoLeopold Dec 2012 #54
"Wolf in sheep's clothing"? Here we go again with Obama-bashing from The Left's TeaParty. Sheesh. RBInMaine Dec 2012 #57
reagan democrat Jakes Progress Dec 2012 #61
Obama LWolf Dec 2012 #62
A "new" Democrat isn't a Democrat, period. duffyduff Dec 2012 #63
Agreed. nt LWolf Dec 2012 #64
+1 n/t whathehell Dec 2012 #102
This message was self-deleted by its author devilgrrl Dec 2012 #69
+1 Liberalynn Dec 2012 #76
I've never believed he was anything but a very conservative Democrat OR a moderate Republican. whathehell Dec 2012 #104
unrec. for bullshit. spanone Dec 2012 #71
Unfortunately, he's a sheep in sheep's clothing, easily stampeded by the right. Tierra_y_Libertad Dec 2012 #73
+1 MotherPetrie Dec 2012 #77
he's a sheep in sheeps clothing... bowens43 Dec 2012 #78
I never believed that he would'nt be open to cuts, I always thought he was clear on that. Puzzledtraveller Dec 2012 #80
I've got news for you-- he's been pushing for Social Security cuts since Marr Dec 2012 #82
DING! DING! DING! COLGATE4 Dec 2012 #95
That's untrue! MannyGoldstein Dec 2012 #103
Well they'd better curtail the increases in food and shelter costs then magical thyme Dec 2012 #100
I don't believe that sandyshoes17 Dec 2012 #101
Actually, the 65+ demo didn't vote for us. gulliver Dec 2012 #105
Amen! democrattotheend Dec 2012 #109
Call your Congress member and Senators tomorrow The Second Stone Dec 2012 #106
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