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48. Yes - that is hate or anger. These kids represented something to him.

Mon Dec 17, 2012, 05:15 PM

Dec 2012

Perhaps they symbolized either himself as a child or children that maybe teased him, didn't accept him, or that he was envious of (because he saw them as "normal" and "happy&quot when he was having difficulties.

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Please someone explain to me how a parent can live in the same house with a child they have raised [View all] politicaljunkie41910 Dec 2012 OP

If his mother had known she was going to be killed do you really think lunatica Dec 2012 #1

I don't believe anyone who has that level of contempt for someone who can shot them in the face politicaljunkie41910 Dec 2012 #4

good point, worth considering, but you still made that up. it's plausable, not factual. elehhhhna Dec 2012 #10

how do you know that it was deep-seated contempt...? Mel Content Dec 2012 #29

Is it clearly known he hated her? u4ic Dec 2012 #30

Shooting a person in the face is a sign of deep hate. Michigan Alum Dec 2012 #33

so is shooting a child 5,6,7, times u4ic Dec 2012 #39

Yes - that is hate or anger. These kids represented something to him. Michigan Alum Dec 2012 #48

Two posts above, I offered another possible explanation why he could have murdered his mother u4ic Dec 2012 #53

Why the deep hatred? Cetacea Dec 2012 #62

Actually a former baby-sitter, from maybe 10 years ago, truebluegreen Dec 2012 #61

So that he wouldn't get hurt? loyalsister Dec 2012 #73

Anyone who feels the need to store an arsenal in their home is in denial of something, that's for valerief Dec 2012 #2

First of all, contempt may have had nothing to do with his mind state. KittyWampus Dec 2012 #3

Whatever his state of mind, I doubt it developed overnight. There were clues. Even his older politicaljunkie41910 Dec 2012 #7

"I doubt it developed overnight" - While there may have been signs of problems before coalition_unwilling Dec 2012 #32

I'm gathering that this young man was quite uncommunicative Fumesucker Dec 2012 #5

Most kids are. As parents we've got to find ways to get them to open up. politicaljunkie41910 Dec 2012 #14

It sounds like both mother and son were pretty isolated-- TwilightGardener Dec 2012 #6

I'm curious why you bolded the part about no spanking Happyhippychick Dec 2012 #8

Because I was trying to convey that these kids were out of control. Their parents didn't believe politicaljunkie41910 Dec 2012 #12

You can't spank your kids? Since when? galileoreloaded Dec 2012 #15

May I just add one thing? Happyhippychick Dec 2012 #17

I appreciate the respectful post. I also understand the distinction between discipline and politicaljunkie41910 Dec 2012 #19

I understand your position and have great respect for you. Happyhippychick Dec 2012 #21

How would you discipline a child with Schizoid Personality Disorder? FarCenter Dec 2012 #54

I don't believe in spanking or time outs, I use positive discipline. In your case I am Happyhippychick Dec 2012 #57

I can still feel my brain burn from the fear of my parents. And the sting of a bamboo switch. Manifestor_of_Light Dec 2012 #31

Spanking and causing fear in children actually changes their brain chemistry. It also teaches them Michigan Alum Dec 2012 #35

ugh. You are so wrong. Hitting teaches hitting. It teaches that force is a solution. cali Dec 2012 #34

Yes - you are very correct. Michigan Alum Dec 2012 #36

Well said. rrneck Dec 2012 #9

Have you ever tried to get someone referred for psych eval? oldhippie Dec 2012 #11

Not personally, but as I mentioned I know someone who threatened to kill her mother. This was a politicaljunkie41910 Dec 2012 #13

The police have to be concerned that the person is a harm to themselves or others. The words suicide Michigan Alum Dec 2012 #37

Parents know...but it's still your "child" ileus Dec 2012 #16

Your kid can be well rounded, active, engaging, and still TwilightGardener Dec 2012 #18

And I imagine as the parents, you would have done anything to help them. politicaljunkie41910 Dec 2012 #20

2020 hindsight SmileyRose Dec 2012 #22

this might blow your mind Corgigal Dec 2012 #23

Then if he loved her so much and wanted to spare her, than why not just NOT DO IT. politicaljunkie41910 Dec 2012 #24

My counselor told me once long before this marlakay Dec 2012 #25

Susan Klebold says otherwise: The Velveteen Ocelot Dec 2012 #26

Read that last night. Very powerful. n/t OneGrassRoot Dec 2012 #46

I watch a lot of those true crime shows. This happens more often than you'd think. Honeycombe8 Dec 2012 #27

In Reply to "those two brothers who killed their parents" intaglio Dec 2012 #28

Read the Yahoo story about his mother lbrtbell Dec 2012 #38

So, Adam Lanza's parents should have hit him obamanut2012 Dec 2012 #40

If that's all you took from what I said than so be it. politicaljunkie41910 Dec 2012 #42

You really need to study up on sociopaths obamanut2012 Dec 2012 #44

As uncomprehending as you may be, the fact is you Sheldon Cooper Dec 2012 #41

I'll reserve my compassion for the 26 victims who were shot at the school, thank you. politicaljunkie41910 Dec 2012 #43

It's not surprising that you can't feel for both. Sheldon Cooper Dec 2012 #47

+1 n/t ieoeja Dec 2012 #56

+1 obamanut2012 Dec 2012 #45

I was trying to find a polite way to say the same thing Marrah_G Dec 2012 #68

A child with disabilities loyalsister Dec 2012 #75

read "I am Adam Lanza's mother" Enrique Dec 2012 #49

Yes, I'm guessing there are few here eloquently passing judgment that have actually been emotionally libdem4life Dec 2012 #58

And don't forget to read some other posts from that same mother. Jamastiene Dec 2012 #74

Wasn't there a recent movie about this? "We Need to Talk About Kevin"? Tommy_Carcetti Dec 2012 #50

Essentially you are just insisting your knowledge must apply to everyone else. Doesn't seem very Flabbergasted Dec 2012 #51

How about we talk about psychotropic drugs. They can CAUSE schizophrenic-like behavior. libdem4life Dec 2012 #52

((crickets))) Cetacea Dec 2012 #63

Thank you for sharing. libdem4life Dec 2012 #66

I was referring to the utter lack of response to your excellent point. Cetacea Dec 2012 #69

So sorry ... kind of new on these boards. The anti-psychotics take it to another level and I'd bet libdem4life Dec 2012 #71

Add the sometimes very severe pecwae Dec 2012 #70

Absolutely. The psychiatrists admit they have no idea how these powerful drugs will effect the brain libdem4life Dec 2012 #72

With respect, this is pure conjecture. I know you want it to make sense but trust me, you don't know nolabear Dec 2012 #55

or overdosed or underdosed on Zyprexa or something similar. That would account for it, too. libdem4life Dec 2012 #59

So many things might, but none do. We can only get as much info as we can and estimate. nolabear Dec 2012 #60

Schizophrenia often develops in young adults susanr516 Dec 2012 #64

This is so true. And lots of kids nowdays smoke pot, which helps to mellow out the swings. libdem4life Dec 2012 #67

happened to a friend of mine in high school too abelenkpe Dec 2012 #78

It's true...what you say in some respects...but, not All Parents are Equal in KoKo Dec 2012 #65

I think he feared his mother riverwalker Dec 2012 #76

Well, no one knows any of these things until they have children Tumbulu Dec 2012 #77