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50. New technology that was not widely accepted or understood by those who ratified the 2nd amendment
Mon Dec 17, 2012, 11:16 AM
Dec 2012

The general weapon of the day required the shooter to reload between shots giving time for the target to retaliate or flee.
This new technology was used by very few and unlike today, was not quickly proliferated through out the general population because they either were yet not informed of it or could not afford to move to the new technology quickly.

You are talking about the next great breakthrough in weapon technology 1791, a time when technology was slow to be integrated or accepted. Most of the weapon owners of the day understood only the prevalent technology of the day and did not have the NRA Magazine or other publication that focused on new gun technology.

When people purchased weapons in 1790, it was primarily for hunting to eat and occasional protection from wild animals. The most common guns in the Civil War:
32 Colt 1849 - loaded with loose blackpowder and a bare bullet, referred to as "cap and ball,"
32 S&W No. 2 - Loaded much faster, 10 or 15 seconds with experience, then two minutes to load the much more common cap and ball revolvers
36 Colt 1851
36 Colt 1862
44 Colt 1860
44 Remington
58 Springfield Musket
577 Enfield Musket
Burnside Carbine
Colt Walker & Dragoon
Confederate Pistols, Carbines, & Shotguns
Henry Rifle 1860
Sharps Carbine
Smith Carbine
Spencer Carbine
Less Common Guns of the Civil War
Artillery

Most weapons used in the 1860's were still single up to 6 rounds then required reloading. Long after the ratification of the 2nd amendment and the introduction of the repeaters mentioned. Most people still relied on single shot weapons and they still wreaked havoc during the Civil War.

The point is we don't need weapons that can fire off 30, 90 or 100 rounds, becoming killing machines.

I like it Politicalboi Dec 2012 #1
and only witin a well-regulated (meaning regulations!) militia. nt valerief Dec 2012 #3
Yep! nt Tumbulu Dec 2012 #16
And when the goofs show up here to insist you use a quill pen Loudly Dec 2012 #2
The Constitution and Bill of Rights don't mention quill pens. nt valerief Dec 2012 #8
It doesn't mention muskets either... Marengo Dec 2012 #10
That's a technical dead-end for them. Chan790 Dec 2012 #23
As I recall... Marengo Dec 2012 #35
I think you are right. ElbarDee Dec 2012 #51
In the Marine Corps, we were issued six magazines... Marengo Dec 2012 #63
What is 782 gear? ElbarDee Dec 2012 #64
782 refers to the basic equipment issue... Marengo Dec 2012 #65
You recall slightly incorrectly. Llewlladdwr Dec 2012 #57
LOL!...Thanks, as you can see, it's been a while Marengo Dec 2012 #62
Well thats whats was available... Historic NY Dec 2012 #24
Freedom of speech Travis_0004 Dec 2012 #21
Your NRA talking pointt was predicted above. n/t RomneyLies Dec 2012 #25
Did you know that there are still words you can't use on network television? JoePhilly Dec 2012 #43
Are you an NRA supporter? DisgustipatedinCA Dec 2012 #52
I support the second amendment Travis_0004 Dec 2012 #56
You're answering a question I did not ask. DisgustipatedinCA Dec 2012 #58
On the issue of the second admendment I agree with the NRA. Travis_0004 Dec 2012 #59
Should we apply the same logic to the rest of the bill of rights? TheKentuckian Dec 2012 #4
What else has changed so much? Zoeisright Dec 2012 #31
Slavery and who can vote obamanut2012 Dec 2012 #49
Real good one RegieRocker Dec 2012 #5
false SoonerPride Dec 2012 #12
You are completely wrong. axetogrind Dec 2012 #19
Replace "tank" with nuclear warhead. JoePhilly Dec 2012 #44
That's absurd. axetogrind Dec 2012 #46
Recently, Scalia made a comment on this you might want to watch. Not Absurd at all. JoePhilly Dec 2012 #48
I hate to barge in here, but you can own a tank. Glassunion Dec 2012 #20
Why do you wish to so radically restrict your freedom of speech? . . . Journeyman Dec 2012 #6
So clffrdjk Dec 2012 #7
i have no freedom to post here. SoonerPride Dec 2012 #9
Agreed this sight is a private entity clffrdjk Dec 2012 #13
That is one of the dumbest things I have ever read. Zoeisright Dec 2012 #32
Apparently not clffrdjk Dec 2012 #34
Actually, a strict reading of the constitution could narrow the definition of "arms" JoePhilly Dec 2012 #45
We need to think the way the founders did when the 2nd amendment was written liberal N proud Dec 2012 #11
But grape and chain shot did ProgressiveProfessor Dec 2012 #17
Grapeshot refers to artillery, not personal weapons liberal N proud Dec 2012 #37
20 round "assault weapons" did, though.. X_Digger Dec 2012 #26
Ya beat me to it! derby378 Dec 2012 #29
It was an Austrian weapon, How many of those do you suspect were used in the US at the time? liberal N proud Dec 2012 #36
Lewis and Clark carried one in 1804. n/t X_Digger Dec 2012 #38
The 2nd amendment was adopted on December 15, 1791 liberal N proud Dec 2012 #39
And the Girandoni was made in 1790. So yes, it was known at the time. n/t X_Digger Dec 2012 #40
In Europe liberal N proud Dec 2012 #41
M. Lewis was one of the first to have one. n/t X_Digger Dec 2012 #42
New technology that was not widely accepted or understood by those who ratified the 2nd amendment liberal N proud Dec 2012 #50
Did you not know that the henry was a 'repeater', too? X_Digger Dec 2012 #54
I used to do that with my dad Major Nikon Dec 2012 #14
What other rights would you roll back to the late 1700s ProgressiveProfessor Dec 2012 #15
those items were changed.... SoonerPride Dec 2012 #18
Then say it outright and not use the cutesy but bogus musket thing ProgressiveProfessor Dec 2012 #22
Preach it, brother! derby378 Dec 2012 #27
No so much interested in preaching more in rational calm discussion ProgressiveProfessor Dec 2012 #33
Can I have a Cannon? n/t Mr.Bill Dec 2012 #28
Have you tried B&H in NYC? ProgressiveProfessor Dec 2012 #30
Some in this thread miss a critical aspect of your suggestion. JoePhilly Dec 2012 #47
Actually my husband owns 2 rifled muskets LibertyLover Dec 2012 #53
where MrDiaz Dec 2012 #55
I don't remember anyone ever saying I DIDN'T have that right... Clue me in. cherokeeprogressive Dec 2012 #60
Well, there's an original idea. slackmaster Dec 2012 #61
DISAGREE! WE HAVE THE RIGHT TO KEEP AND BEAR NUCLEAR WEAPONS! backscatter712 Dec 2012 #66
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