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Mr.Bill

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14. And you don't know that they were locked up.

Sun Dec 16, 2012, 10:41 PM

Dec 2012

Yet in your post #9 you nade a very definite statement that there was no evidence of irresposibility.

Now you're not sure and you are guessing.

You're right about one thing, we don't know all the facts, yet.

I'm "guessing" that Adam did not pick the lock on a gun safe to get access to the weapons.

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I think people are really overlooking the biggest issue here. [View all] Initech Dec 2012 OP

Its all of it. All of it needs to change. There is no one biggest issue. MichiganVote Dec 2012 #1

+1 progressoid Dec 2012 #6

"All of it needs to change." Common Sense Party Dec 2012 #51

But you do have to admit that our media causes a lot of our problems. Initech Dec 2012 #55

Irresponsible, negligent gun owners who let their toys be used for murder kestrel91316 Dec 2012 #2

I agree. But there is no evidence that the mother was irresponsible. MichiganVote Dec 2012 #9

The fact that a young man who lived in her house Mr.Bill Dec 2012 #12

You don't know that they weren't locked up. And prior to this he had not MichiganVote Dec 2012 #13

And you don't know that they were locked up. Mr.Bill Dec 2012 #14

He may well have had a key or knew where she kept it. So what? MichiganVote Dec 2012 #16

We'll have to agree to disagree Mr.Bill Dec 2012 #22

All cars are potentially dangerous too. But its a safe bet that 5mph vs. 95mph MichiganVote Dec 2012 #26

Agreed, and exactly my point. Mr.Bill Dec 2012 #27

Except when they steal your care my dear. MichiganVote Dec 2012 #31

But they will have to work to get at it. Mr.Bill Dec 2012 #32

You don't know that Bill. MichiganVote Dec 2012 #34

And to get back to your post #9, which prompted my response. Mr.Bill Dec 2012 #39

:) Yes, its only a discussion board. We haven't been elevated to the Supreme Court yet. MichiganVote Dec 2012 #40

LOL Mr.Bill Dec 2012 #42

The end result is the same. Zoeisright Dec 2012 #46

I hope you're not calling me a gun nut, because I've never owned one. Mr.Bill Dec 2012 #48

Not this crap again. Initech Dec 2012 #49

You like me don't ya'? Its ok, a lot of people like me. I don't ask for it. Just happens. MichiganVote Dec 2012 #57

why does that make her irresponsible??? TorchTheWitch Dec 2012 #52

Thank you for your thoughtful and eloquent if lengthy post. Mr.Bill Dec 2012 #54

He was 20 years old. Making him responsible for his actions under the law. MichiganVote Dec 2012 #58

If she had a dangerous person in her home and then did NOT secure her guns so that he could not kestrel91316 Dec 2012 #15

Actually she was shot to death. In her bed. In the face. Four times. Feel better? MichiganVote Dec 2012 #17

I thought it was more than four..... in any case.... glinda Dec 2012 #23

He may not have wanted her to live with what he was about to do. MichiganVote Dec 2012 #24

Oh, yes, I'm sure he was actually a compassionate and caring person. kestrel91316 Dec 2012 #37

not glinda Dec 2012 #44

I was being sarcastic. kestrel91316 Dec 2012 #53

I know.... glinda Dec 2012 #56

I don't feel good about any of this. But SHE set the situation up. What other outcome kestrel91316 Dec 2012 #36

Yeah. That's the point. Zoeisright Dec 2012 #45

Yup. I made the same point in an OP yesterday. Bonobo Dec 2012 #3

And here's another... joeunderdog Dec 2012 #38

Sadly, some are in denial. nt Bonobo Dec 2012 #41

Even before that. undeterred Dec 2012 #4

Acutally th worst was in Bath Michigan. Home to the GOP who wants guns in schools today. MichiganVote Dec 2012 #11

We need to abolish the 2nd Amendment. Walk away Dec 2012 #5

Most amendment have been interpreted to meet today's standards. The 2nd rhett o rick Dec 2012 #8

Which is precisely how the Court interpreted the 2nd Amendment thucythucy Dec 2012 #25

Yes, I agree. nm rhett o rick Dec 2012 #43

DC V. HELLER derby378 Dec 2012 #20

Thirty-five or six Red States States will vote against that one.... glinda Dec 2012 #47

Have you watched any of the Survivalist shows? HockeyMom Dec 2012 #7

I've seen Doomsday Preppers - those people are certified nutjobs. Initech Dec 2012 #18

people watching these sick shows are a big problem too Skittles Dec 2012 #28

Yep. GoCubsGo Dec 2012 #10

It's already begun. Initech Dec 2012 #21

the media is the problem Faryn Balyncd Dec 2012 #19

MSM started licking their chops after 9/11 about all of the profits they would make! And it's never RKP5637 Dec 2012 #29

Irony is the MSM concern for how the shooting will affect children nationwide, a problem they caused FarCenter Dec 2012 #30

We need to copy the system we created for the privilege-based ownership and use of automobiles. libdem4life Dec 2012 #33

If it bleeds, it leads. truebluegreen Dec 2012 #35

Yup exactly, scare the crap out of people 24/7 and it only leads to bad things. Initech Dec 2012 #50

There is no single cause Taverner Dec 2012 #59